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Jul 2016
1:56pm, 8 Jul 2016
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Helegant
Oh, and about training, of the dog variety.
We've tried to follow the positive-reinforcement methods, unlike the rub-their-nose-in-it methods that were popular in my childhood.
One of the trainers at our club uses occasional shouting (e.g leave it) to 'command' the dogs with lots of praise and more praise and more praise when they get it right.
Jet prefers, and reacts better to, quiet commands and not *too* much chatter - he'd rather have an edible reward :-). Mind you, he still goes deaf when 'leave it' is required.
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Jul 2016
2:00pm, 8 Jul 2016
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Dave A
Ours are really good at leave. Even if chicken or cheese is on offer.
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Jul 2016
2:04pm, 8 Jul 2016
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Helegant
Well done Dave. How did you achieve that? For Jet's safety I'd really like to achieve a reliable 'leave'.
(Jet will 'wait' for as long as necessary if I put a food treat in front of him, or even on his paws. But 'leave' suggests he will never be allowed it, so he snaffles as quickly as possible while he can.)
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Jul 2016
2:07pm, 8 Jul 2016
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Sharkie
Jess is brilliant at leave too.... but Helegant if 'wait' (or 'stop!' if you are out and about) has the same effect do you need to teach leave? Are you thinking of specific situations?
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Jul 2016
2:10pm, 8 Jul 2016
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Sharkie
We mainly use 'leave' for interaction with other dogs, or birds even. But yes food outdoors too.
Not a great deal of success as an anti cat pursuit measure, although occasionally it works.
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Jul 2016
2:20pm, 8 Jul 2016
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BaronessBL
Wanda is similar to Jet - a wait for food put in front of her is fine because she knows she will be allowed to eat it at some point. 'Leave it' is completely different outside. It will work with something like a crisp bag, burger box etc in that she has to investigate the wrapping then get at what's inside, so will generally respond to leave it, but if the crisps, burger or worse was just dropped on the floor she would just go straight to it and eat it regardless of commands. It's that sort of behaviour that is almost certainly the cause of her recent illness and it's worrying that it could be much worse another time. She isn't very often off the lead in an area where she might eat something and I can usually give a tug of the lead to stop her eating something but occasionally on the playground where she is allowed off, she'll find something before we have seen it.
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Jul 2016
2:24pm, 8 Jul 2016
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Sharkie
Do either of you use 'stop!' It's a very good one. (Has got me out of trouble more than once)
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Jul 2016
2:24pm, 8 Jul 2016
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Dave A
Leave was worked on over and over and over again. Like you with wait, the dogs know that usually they are going to get a reward at the end.
It doesn't work with live frogs or mice.
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Jul 2016
2:51pm, 8 Jul 2016
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BaronessBL
I don't use stop although I do use 'No' with varying degrees of success depending on the circumstances. To 'stop the dog' when she is running loose I use Wait and raise my hand like a policeman's stop and she almost always immediately stops and sits down - but I haven't tried it if she was running towards a discarded burger for example. I might try that though thinking about it!
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Jul 2016
3:34pm, 8 Jul 2016
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Alice the Camel
"Stop" is taught at Gold level which we're not doing now. The Gold students gave us a demonstration at our last class and it was mighty impressive. I can't work out how to teach it though (I think they start by using a long lead). It would be very useful to teach Charlie as he has no road sense and my biggest worry when we're out is how to stop him running into the road if he somehow slips his lead... Suggestions, Sharkie?
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