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Jul 2019
10:14pm, 23 Jul 2019
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Sharkie
It's quite intersting actually. You know how the received knowledge goes: you need to be consistent with dogs, you can't let them do something sometimes but forbid it other times' True but we've discovered Jess understands relatively complicated situations. I'm sure other dogs do too.

She knows if both Raffo and I are in/on the bed then she can't be too. Just occasionally she 'pretends' she can and has a growly two minute game where she 'won't get off the bed.

If I'm away she knows she can sleep on the bed. Although head on my pillow IS taking the piss! On the more unusual occasions where it's just me and her in Hastings she also knows she can sleep on the bed ... but usually waits to be allowed.

If Raffo goes to bed before me she grabs five minutes! (Hence the pic) As soon as I walk in the bedroom she jumps off the bed. 'Good girl!'

I think that's quite a subtle level of understanding .
Jul 2019
6:53am, 24 Jul 2019
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GimmeMedals
She’s a very clever dog, Sharkire!
Our Jess knows not to go on the bed but she can’t resist sharing space elsewhere. A pillow makes her day.
Jul 2019
7:27am, 24 Jul 2019
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Mazlin
I wonder if it’s the same thing as having to teach them the same trick in lots of different locations? So two people in the bed = no room for Jess. One person in the bed = different situation entirely = Jess in the bed. Would be different if when you were both there she was sometimes allowed on and sometimes not.

Because I have all the windows open, Rory has been marauding around since about 4am. I guarantee that once I’ve gone to work he will spend all morning having a lovely sleep while I have to stay awake and function.
Jul 2019
7:28am, 24 Jul 2019
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Helegant
I think most pet dogs are fully aware of fixed and variable boundaries. :-)
Jul 2019
7:38am, 24 Jul 2019
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Sharkie
Yep, I agree - but the reading and remembering of different situations is interesting isn't it. I'm also sure that those of you with an extra member of the family (Raffo, the Baron, Mr.LD, Helegant's Mr ) will agree that our dog's also know there is more than one set of rules....

It was fascinating that Indi - absolutely NOT allowed to even so much as gaze longingly at food on the dining table- still decided it was worth chancing his luck with newcomer me!
Jul 2019
7:39am, 24 Jul 2019
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Sharkie
I think that's it really - dogs are opportunists. Great survival tactic.
Jul 2019
9:07am, 24 Jul 2019
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Helegant
Our dogs worked as an opportunistic team yesterday.

Child 1 was pushing food around a plate and both dogs were 'aware' of it happening above their heads.

A couple of minutes later, Child 1 was distracted, Jet jumped and knocked the food onto the floor. Puppy and Jet started eating. Cue mass panic - child has lost dinner, puppy is only meant to eat specially weighed and measured puppy food, what's in the food that can poison dogs, not to mention the mess and the training-fail.

I removed Jet by picking him up - to much growly protest; child removed puppy by picking him up - no comment, Sproglet cleared up the mess asking if garlic can hurt puppies.
Jul 2019
9:12am, 24 Jul 2019
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BaronessBL
LoL Helegant - but full grown spaniel vs French bulldog puppy - I suspect I can guess who got most of the food! I bet it was a bit like that video that does the rounds of the Labrador coming to tea!!!
Jul 2019
9:16am, 24 Jul 2019
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Helegant
Jet didn't seem to think there was any competition ;-)
Jul 2019
9:46am, 24 Jul 2019
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Mazlin
Oh yes, Rory is a tiny little psychopath who just wants what he wants. If I can offer an alternative he wants more, then he’ll go for that. If not...forget it!

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