Vegetarian Runners - Any tips?

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Little Miss Happy Aug 2017 6:32pm, 14 Aug 2017 282 posts	0 Little Miss Happy I was a proper veggie until I had to give up eating wheat when it became really difficult to eat anything when I was out. I stopped eating meat and fish (37 years ago) because I didn't feel it was fair to do so when I couldn't kill it myself (and there have been times I've wanted to such as when my dog has caught a rabbit or squirrel and not killed it cleanly) but I decided that if it came down to it I could catch a fish and bash it on the head if I had to so reintroduced it about 12 years ago. I really like quinoa - you can get smoked stuff too that has a bit of flavour if you only want it for savoury dishes. Don't get sucked into buying the expensive tri colour or whatever ones that some supermarkets sell, the cheapo stuff is fine. I went dairy free for a couple of weeks to see if it helped my EIA. I was pleased to find that it didn't (mainly because I missed cheese and the vegan stuff just didn't cut it though both Tesco and Sainsbury have an interesting looking range now) but I found that I preferred non dairy milk (have never liked the taste of milk much) so now use hazelnut, coconut or almond in place of milk - though I will cook with real milk and don't have a strong moral objection to it.
Dave A Aug 2017 7:47am, 15 Aug 2017 21,756 posts	0 Dave A My reason for going vegetarian was moral. As I say to people who ask, rightly or wrongly, I tell them it's the thought of eating dead things. I've never liked fish, so that's a no for me. I must confess to liking cheese way too much. And fried eggs. I would probably only be vegan for health reasons if I had to. In terms of being vegetarian I'm not militant with it. For example I know if my mum or mother in law makes a savoury pie the pastry will have lard in it. I'll eat it. Likewise the last time we had dinner with my brother in law we had nut roast, everyone else had lamb. I had some gravy that was made from meat juices. And during the trial period of changing from meat eater to vegetarian I did accidentally eat a bag of pork scratchings. On top of that we have two dogs. Their diet is primarily raw chicken. I'm still happy to feed them that, plus the tinned and dry food we buy them.
HappyG(rrr) Aug 2017 12:42pm, 15 Aug 2017 27,147 posts	0 HappyG(rrr) Ooh, I may accidentally be going vegan! I bought soya milk last night and it was nice! I raid that Dairy is Scary article and am now horrified at the treatment of dairy cattle and calves. And a bit shocked about what is in a lot of milk too (unless you get organic from a known clean source). I won't say what, cos I don't want to put you off your lunches. Looks like vegan cheese substitutes are pretty good now too - Teese and other prods. My next challenge is eggs. I like eggs. But popped into my Facebook today (is this target marketing or have I just got a lot of vegan pals?) a Guardian piece (from Jan 2017 I think) about free range eggs not being. Again (becca?!) can anyone tell me if there is a way of ensuring the eggs you get are from happy chickens? Is removing an egg from a chicken inherently cruel? Is everything that's in an egg good for you? theguardian.com Sorry again Nellers for hijacking your thread! G
HappyG(rrr) Aug 2017 12:55pm, 15 Aug 2017 27,148 posts	0 HappyG(rrr) read not raid!
becca7 Aug 2017 1:04pm, 15 Aug 2017 7,346 posts	0 becca7 Well, some people take the view that backyard eggs are fine as the hens are happy. That doesn't really tell the true picture as you only normally have females. Normally they have come from commercial egg producers. The males that are born to such producers tend to be surplus to requirements and don't get to live for long. The females haven't had very nice lives anyway. I think maybe there are some small scale egg producers who keep the males, similar to the ahimsa milk, but there can't be many of them. The other issue is that hens should only naturally be laying about 12 eggs per year. Obviously, they lay a lot more than that and it can't be good for them.
Nellers Aug 2017 1:12pm, 15 Aug 2017 31,584 posts	0 Nellers Not at all, G. It's only "my" thread for the first post, then it belongs to anyone who wants to post/read it. Interesting and worrying stuff on animal welfare. I think that as a society we need to think very carefully about how we feed ourselves but it's a long way down on most voters' priority list and so won't become a big headline issue for a long time yet. It's like throwing stranded starfish back into the sea after a storm, though. You can't change everything but you make a huge difference to some of them and that's got to be a good thing.
Little Miss Happy Aug 2017 1:31pm, 15 Aug 2017 284 posts	0 Little Miss Happy I'm not militant in any way either Dave, I buy and cook meat for my husband and dog, but I won't eat anything with lard or meat juices in nor any of the sweets or desserts that are made with meat gelatine - just why would you want that in your chocolate mousse? I find the thought disgusting! I don't like the taste of soya milk. I do only buy free range eggs and during the recent avian health scare Asda did mark there's as 'temporarily housed in barns for safety' so I guess it's a question of how much you're prepared to trust the producers.
Cyclops Aug 2017 7:49pm, 15 Aug 2017 3,084 posts	0 Cyclops My OH is toying with the idea of being vegetarian from a not eating cuddly animals and eating animals is a waste of the planet's resources point of view. I will happily support him in this as I agree with the principles even if I do like eating meat very much. He works away a few nights a week so I can choose what I eat then. But the important question is What is the substitute for bacon?!
Gymfreak Aug 2017 8:18pm, 15 Aug 2017 9,217 posts	0 Gymfreak You can get vegetarian bacon. But I hate all the fake meat products and try to avoid them. And soya generally. I prefer to eat WFPB Hello everyone Veggie here, I'm very very nearly vegan, has been a very gradual conversion (giving up meat was easy, did that forever ago, it's disgusting) but removing dairy etc (and milk choc! Plus all the artificial protein bar/whey crap) has been quite slow. I'm still finishing off a supply that's in the house but anything new I'm buying is vegan. Taking out yoghurt etc has been easy and I've used nut milks in porridge for years, but haven't been able to switch in coffee. Oatly barista however has changed all that Being veggie is very easy in 2017, there's so much non meat choice Well done to everyone making the change and enjoy your much nicer eating now, who wants to chew on dead flesh???? 🤢🤢🤢🤢
Dvorak Aug 2017 12:09am, 16 Aug 2017 14,057 posts	0 Dvorak There is no substitute for bacon. And for a bit, I was tempted. But now I'm repulsed. I'm recently being quite liberal with the smoked paprika though, you might like to try that. As for "fake meat" - hmm. I am put off by things being labelled "chicken" or "beef" etc. However, I do like a burger* or sausage and they are eminently practical ways to prepare and cook food of whatever kind and anyone suggesting that I can't have them because I am vegetarian can gtf. *although Morrison's vegeburgers (tonight's tea) are just not as good now they are vegan (sorry becca).