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Feb 2014
9:16am, 3 Feb 2014
21,745 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
Well done RWR at Forfar. Nice to see you. That 50m thigh deep puddle was a "laugh"! :-)G
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Feb 2014
9:20am, 3 Feb 2014
21,746 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
Interesting on the back to backs. I do shorter on Sat and longer on Sun, but only because club run is on Sunday and I sometimes tack my miles onto theirs to make the long run up. And sometimes Sat is a race, so again, better to get the quicker shorter thing out of the way, then long, slow (very slow sometimes!) plod on the Sunday. But that's all just convenience, nothing to do with physical benefit. No idea which would be better.
Does anyone do a longer run during the week, like 12 - 16 on a Wednesday or something? In mara plans, that usually features, but is it just the weekend long and/or back to backs that matter for ultras? :-)G
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Feb 2014
9:27am, 3 Feb 2014
494 posts
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FenlandRunner
Unless it's a midweek marathon. I rarely hit 10 miles during the week.
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Feb 2014
10:18am, 3 Feb 2014
9,277 posts
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DerbyTup
I was going to suggest a decent run in the week for folk who have chance to get out. Maybe replace a back to back weekender with a mid-weeker. It breaks up the trudge of Sat and Sun runs every week  Great in winter too if you can get free time at short notice to coincide with good weather windows
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Feb 2014
10:31am, 3 Feb 2014
769 posts
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RedWineRunner
In mara training I usually do a 10 or 11 on a Wednesday night, in between club sessions on Tue/Thur (usually amounts to about 6/7ish miles) and I find the mid-week mid-distance run to be invaluable, but in ultra training I just pile on the miles every day at lunchtime - the most I can fit in is 8.5.
Also, I've only ever target-trained for a marathon in the Autumn, which means long light evenings to get midweek long sessions done in. I don't fancy 10 miles in the dark and rain on the same back-roads routes at the moment and I need my lunchtime sessions just so that I see some sunlight during the week!
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Feb 2014
11:13am, 3 Feb 2014
128 posts
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The Bogman
I do a long hilly trail run on Saturday, usually between 30-50k (30-40 more likely) and then perhaps a flattish 10 mile trail run on Sunday. I try to do a 10-miler mid-week if time allows but its usually around 8-miles at something like 'tempo' pace. Perhaps once a month I'll try to log a longer double at the weekend, like 35k/30k all on hilly trails. 90% of my mileage is on trails. I find roads take longer to recover from.
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Feb 2014
1:16pm, 3 Feb 2014
21,749 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
I was advised to do as much of my mileage offroad too Bogman, less stress on the old joints. RWR, I prefer autumn maras and summer training for that reason too. I don't enjoy road running in the dark much. Head torch runs off road are great, but take longer, more organisation and are easily bailed/skipped due to circumstances. However, our club often do a head torch run on a Wed, and it can be 7-10 miles. Add on 2-3 before hand just around the roads/trails and that can make up quite a nice mid week mid length run.
I think I need to re-introduce the commute run. Really no excuse not to and it's a great way of fitting in some extra miles. It's light by 7:30 in morn now but still dark going home at 5:30 or 6 unfortunately. Might just have to get on with it though! :-)G
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Feb 2014
2:22pm, 3 Feb 2014
29,377 posts
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Hills of Death (HOD)
You know me Fenners a bit of both
Did Bedford street then Parkrun then street on Sat then Sunday Sandy 10 plus Cycle route 51 mix/match.
Well done you and Sarah even though you got chicked
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Feb 2014
2:33pm, 3 Feb 2014
5,819 posts
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flip
Lisrun & I take a hilly/muddy head torch run on a Wednesday for my club but its morphed into a beginners/ slower group. I'm happy to do this as it gives them another outlet and they all seem to love it which makes me happy :-). I used to do my own off road run first but I've got involved in a 5 a side footy game first now.
So i go from fast and furious to slow and steady 4-5 in the mud. Now if i did the usual 5 first my monthly mileage would look 20-25 miles better but i wonder if its better for me?. I look upon the footy as an interval /speed session but again its this hang up on mileage i think we all have a problem dealing with as its so ingrained in us.
postscript: I filled in for someone last week and played footy Wednesday , Thursday and Friday eves. Come Saturday my legs were very quick to tell me I'm way to bloody old to do that now !
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Feb 2014
2:49pm, 3 Feb 2014
129 posts
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The Bogman
footie is great training but I always seem to pick up injuries....probably a combination of the intensity of it + age ! Saying that, given the choice between intervals and footie I know I'd choose a footie every time, but i probably wouldn't run for the following two days !
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