The Sub 3:15 Marathon Thread
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May 2023
7:43am, 16 May 2023
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Big_G
Sorry to bring the Copenhagen back into discussion Bowman(!), but Nick Bester did a video of the race, where he was running with Anya Culling, who he coaches. I saw somewhere that the commentators said she had a personal pacer, so presumably it was him. He had a bit of a nightmare getting to the race though, but just about managed it with a very late change of flight and airport. Seems EA had the race as some kind of development race as both her and Philippa Bowden were in an England vest. englandathletics.org |
May 2023
8:35am, 16 May 2023
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Bowman 🇸🇪
I'll live Big_G 
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May 2023
12:24pm, 17 May 2023
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Bowman 🇸🇪
Here we go again! First one will be a longer training run |
May 2023
12:37pm, 17 May 2023
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Oscar the Grouch
Back on the horse
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May 2023
12:41pm, 17 May 2023
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HappyG(rrr)
Can I commend and recommend Canute's excellent blog on training and recovery and its relationship to long term heart and other physiological health or damage? fetcheveryone.com/blog-view.php?id=13360 And great to see a marathon in plan for you Bowman. Many will be targetting about the same date (me included, though 1/4 hour or more behind you!) so keep telling us how you are feeling and race targets and approach! G
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May 2023
12:55pm, 17 May 2023
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tipsku
Good plan, Bowman. Maybe racing another one without a time target helps with getting used to the race setting. Also, maybe you could do a few shorter races until then. I remember that the 10k you did was chaos. If you do another one without pressure and then have a good experience, it helps with the mental game. I had a couple of races in the build up, some good, some not so much. All valuable in terms of getting used to the race setting and different conditions. I've got a date pencilled in, 8 October. I haven't signed up yet. I'll make up my mind in summer if I want to commit to marathon training in the heat. |
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May 2023
1:14pm, 17 May 2023
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Bowman 🇸🇪
Oscar the Grouch, Fighting my way back Cheers HappyG(rrr) Yes lets see how the weather might be first, 🤣 There might be some type of reasonable target tipsku Yes i have had some issues lately with my races And i'm not kidding myself, maybe i am the problem and not the strange "race problems". I need to learn to suck it up, and have contingency plans. But yes a few other races might be good. I might do a short one this weekend. But easy, and not an all out thing. |
May 2023
1:50pm, 17 May 2023
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jda
I always do two or three 10ks and HMs through the 18 week marathon training plan, partly as tests and partly for race practice. Gives me a good indication as to how my training is going.
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May 2023
2:05pm, 17 May 2023
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larkim
What's your actual racing history Bowman? Are all of the races you've done on Fetch (as there aren't many?) I did remind myself of your blog ref the 38:56 10k you ran in April, which itself had mitigating factors in terms of how well you did on the day, but as someone who ran a similar sort of time in the run up to my first marathon I was surprised that you expected to go from narrowly sub 39 to sub 3 on marathon race day. I know from my personal stats that the various calculators say that low 38 should correlate with a sub 3 marathon etc, but I equally feel like I know (for me at least) that a sub 3 is a long way off even if I did run a 38:30 in marathon build up. That could just be my sandbagging though!
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May 2023
2:54pm, 17 May 2023
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Bowman 🇸🇪
larkim, pretty much. In short. all my training is here besides a year that got lost in a app called endomondo i think. But the rest i managed to upload here. My real training really begun 2,5 years ago, when i had plateaued, and it was, ok what now, well a run streak maybe? So its like this: 2023 is the faint grey line. Before that i have had a few 10k around 50 min, a few HM around 2h over the years. So no real racing experience at all really. I really wasn't a racing guy, i'm not yet either, but i'm getting there, wanting to have "official times" but still i don't fancy the race "atmosphere" and so on that some people do. But yes you are right about the times, but i don't usually get my best times on the races. And i'm slower on shorter distances. So i don't think the 10k will tell me as much as a HM or even longer, how i might perform on a marathon. Some people are very fast on the short stuff (i have a colleague who is a ~32 min 10k er, but did marathon in 3:30) But yes, i have no idea of what i was thinking really.. Look at my last MP session two weeks from my CPH try. https://www.fetcheveryone.com/t-21786110, I think that one gave me good indications of being close to a 3h marathon, but maybe a bit over confident. |
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