The vaporfly thread
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Nov 2020
9:24pm, 29 Nov 2020
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Windsor Wool
I do J2R. I used to run in Adidas tempo and Boston and these Hoka feel quite similar really, just with a little more kick.
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Nov 2020
9:38pm, 29 Nov 2020
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Dvorak
Although I'm unlikely to be buying a pair, I'm interested in reading about them. Following on from the Guardian piece I've just read a few more articles including one with a top Canadian marathoner outsideonline.com and finishing with this one doctorsofrunning.com tl/dr: it's the foam. Specifically, the PEBA foam. |
Nov 2020
11:01pm, 29 Nov 2020
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SPR
The last article you linked specifically mentioned the Reebok Floatrides which use Pebax but have no plate, the author then hopes that Reebok can add a plate (I personally hope they keep them exactly the same). I guess it isn't just the foam then and the combination of everything...
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Nov 2020
11:03pm, 29 Nov 2020
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SPR
In fact I might get scared into buying another pair now in case they do go down that route.
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Nov 2020
8:56am, 30 Nov 2020
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SPR
Extra 20% on Reebok sale today means I'm definitely getting another pair which will mean I have 2 new and one in use. The question now is whether I add a another pair to the order...
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Nov 2020
9:01am, 30 Nov 2020
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larkim
The last time I read anything interesting about this it *was* the foam contributing most of the performance gains, but the plate as a stability aspect was also key. Which is why I get wound up by journalists etc referring to the carbon plate as the spring which seems to do all the work, when it appears that that isn't the case. But I suppose a story which is effectively "new foam for shoes helps records get broken" isn't as interesting as "carbon spring propels runners foward" etc etc.
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Nov 2020
9:02am, 30 Nov 2020
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SKR
@WW i actually agree! the Hoka Rocket's are the shoes the Adidas Adizero Pros could have been.
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Nov 2020
9:07am, 30 Nov 2020
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Windsor Wool
lark - agree, you've only got to compare the old ZF with the VF to realize where the zip came from, both with a C-plate but very different performance between Dvorak - buy some and come over to the dark side, there's no way back 
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Nov 2020
9:39am, 30 Nov 2020
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Gobi
Used the 4% for my 9mm paced jog last night. They feel so nice !
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Nov 2020
9:42am, 30 Nov 2020
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Windsor Wool
9mm in 4% must be like 75 bpm for you Gobi!!
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