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Jan 2019
8:44am, 8 Jan 2019
74 posts
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AJLB
K5 Gus - I'd so no to anything but roads - it's a pretty high sole, and not a lot of support for anything but tarmac. The old Zoom Flys (not the flyknit) on the other hand have a reasonable degree of structure to the upper - plus they're rather cheaper on sale 
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Jan 2019
9:03am, 8 Jan 2019
3,569 posts
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jdarun
I'd also say that the unprotected parts of the sole look like they will cut up pretty easily and there's next to no grip for off-road surfaces. There aren't any trails round here that I'd take them on, but I am in the yorkshire dales and maybe yours differ!
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Jan 2019
9:52am, 8 Jan 2019
65,861 posts
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Gobi
Anything road nothing else
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Jan 2019
10:05am, 8 Jan 2019
3,570 posts
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jdarun
Having said that I have my eye on a local road marathon that has about a km or so of path in the middle and I might use them for that. But it's a short flat section in summer and I doubt I'll even be racing it really.
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Jan 2019
10:58am, 8 Jan 2019
13,757 posts
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Chrisull
So I went with the Streak 6 in the end, it's closer to where I am now (lower profile, stiffer sole). Reading up it sounds like I want the VF 4% or nothing, the Zoomfly seems to be an uncomfortable half way house, which can penalise if you drop pace below 6.50. Plus it was under a 1/3rd of the price of the VF. And it means I won't have to suffer larks tutting at me, for using performance aids :-).
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Jan 2019
11:08am, 8 Jan 2019
65,869 posts
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Gobi
I'm faster than Larks in a pair of boots so he can tut all he wants.
Others at my level wear these shoes
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Jan 2019
11:26am, 8 Jan 2019
13,758 posts
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Chrisull
Fighting talk ;-).
I'm not even at larks level.
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Jan 2019
12:08pm, 8 Jan 2019
6,434 posts
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larkim
No tutting from me!! It's a personal choice, and as I said before I've never invested in any racing shoes anyway from a purely financial / wife perspective
My dilemma for myself comes in knowing there is a legal performance aid out there which *would* make me faster without me having to do anything at all. I just want to get faster entirely on my own merits for no other good reason than self satisfaction, and I don't at all criticise anyone for wanting to eke every bit of performance out of themselves through use of technology or legal equipment.
I drink beetroot juice prior to a race and I think that really does give me a performance boost, I'm not averse to bringing in external aids to help me out. I'm being incredibly inconsistent and illogical (as per usual).
But if I PB at anything this year I want that performance *for myself* to be due to my body and my training for my own personal satisfaction. I know that sounds like an implicit criticism of anyone who does choose shoes / equipment but it honestly isn't meant to be - each to their own!!
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Jan 2019
12:32pm, 8 Jan 2019
2,827 posts
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K5 Gus
OK, so Zoom Fly Flyknit ordered, the sale price under £100, plus 6% cashback via topcashback seemed a decent deal. Will use for halfs, and maybe road ultras depending how I get on with them
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Jan 2019
12:41pm, 8 Jan 2019
65,872 posts
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Gobi
I don't take potions Larks but mainly as I can't stand the taste.
I have learned that if it is legal and available to all it is fair game.
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