The vaporfly thread
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Dec 2019
7:26pm, 4 Dec 2019
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K5 Gus
Looks like the competition are slowly catching up with the Vaporfly. Saucony Endorphin Pro just announced for next spring - pebax foam, with a curved carbon plate ! Sounds familiar  Slightly heavier, but looks as if it would be a bit more stable with a wider footprint. Only $200 so cheaper than Vaporfly |
Dec 2019
7:53pm, 4 Dec 2019
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Oranj
I'm with @puzzler on the heel drop. I like the idea of these shoes, but I've always run in low, almost flat heel drop shoes and have real trouble adapting to anything else. I guess that once I'm back to fitness I'll be trying some Hoka Carbon X since they're only 5mm drop. Those Saucony's also seem to be quite stacked at the heel |
Dec 2019
8:03pm, 4 Dec 2019
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SPR
All depends on if they actually work. They're throwing a lot stuff at this which if done wrong won't be faster The Reebok Floatride Fast Pro are a simple racing flat, they just uses Pebax cushioning. Therefore if the cushioning is better (which I think is confirmed), then it will be a better racing flat than previous simple racing flats. |
Dec 2019
9:22pm, 4 Dec 2019
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larkim
NB 5280s are also getting highly rated for milers / 5k road racers.
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Dec 2019
9:12am, 5 Dec 2019
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Gobi
I have Nike Feet, they just work for me. I still like my Nike Free really
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Dec 2019
10:19am, 5 Dec 2019
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Windsor Wool
Clare just to go back to your original question / thoughts about getting the ZF to complement the VF. That's what I did (I have Peg Turbo as well) and I'm not sure that I will / would again - the ZF is a poor relation to the VF (and the Peg Turbo just feels like any other Nike shoe) so in my view you're just as well running harder sessions etc in adidas or other shoes you've already got in the cupboard. The race day magic of the VF will always be there
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Dec 2019
11:44am, 5 Dec 2019
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SPR
Re the NB 5280, I note that RTR say it's a toss up with it and the Reebok Floatride Fast Pro in regards to which to use on track or road miles/ 5k. That fits with my thoughts in terms of the formula needing to be perfect for the additions to make a good bit of difference on top of the cushioning. roadtrailrun.com On track I'd use spikes anyway. |
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Dec 2019
2:46pm, 5 Dec 2019
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larkim
I run in spikes on a track. Though I do wonder why sometimes; I've never consciously noticed a lack of adhesion when I've occasionally run on the track in my normal runners. No doubt at elite speeds it truly is a necessity, and especially at sprint speeds. Though they are a "stiffer" shoe so I'm guessing I get benefit from the track surface etc which is the real purpose of spikes at my ability level.
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Dec 2019
3:04pm, 5 Dec 2019
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Gobi
Larks - I raced track this year and used the 4% in my 800 and 1500, maybe next year I will run an 800 in spikes or at least do a couple of track sessions 1 in spikes 1 in 4 %
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Dec 2019
4:02pm, 5 Dec 2019
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SPR
I run in LD spikes. I have the New Balance 5000. I did consider getting some MD spikes last year and actually bought them to test fit. I decided against when my achilles was grumbling earlier in the season so played it safe. |
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