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14 Jun
7:53pm, 14 Jun 2024
291 posts
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Charlesvdw
If I recall correctly, they both were (past tense) sub 15 5k runners. They are not at that level right now.
So I think the 5min/mile runner will probably get at most 15mpw.
The 10min/mile runner will probably run no more than 60mpw because it takes a lot of time at that pace to get decent mileage.
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14 Jun
7:56pm, 14 Jun 2024
292 posts
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Charlesvdw
"THE RULES
One run per day; no doubles.
All runs must be continuous; no reps.
Instantaneous pace cannot exceed pace limit by more than 30 sec/mile (i.e. at no point may Vinny run slower than 5:30/mi, nor me faster than 9:30/mi)
No single mile split (or fraction of a mile) may exceed the pace limit by more than 10 sec/mile (i.e. Vinny's slowest allowable split is 5:10; my fastest allowable split is 9:50).
I may not abuse vertical gain outside of reasonable geographic conditions.
I may not do strides.
Vinny is allotted 400m each for warm up and cool down for injury prevention purposes.
I am allotted 400m of drills per day.
Both competitors may do weight training, but no other forms of cross training"
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14 Jun
8:55pm, 14 Jun 2024
17,286 posts
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jda
I just don't see how anyone can think it's sensible to train for a marathon on 10 mins per day.
10 mins. That's it. Makes it seem even more ridiculous than miles per week.
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15 Jun
8:00am, 15 Jun 2024
24,587 posts
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larkim
I suppose it's not that far off from that concept of 60s of intense activity as a big health boost.
Not saying I'm confident in either runner, but as extreme examples of "is it pace or volume?" it has a bit of interest.
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15 Jun
8:12am, 15 Jun 2024
44,693 posts
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SPR
It's a bit of fun for those involved but a waste of time as real research.
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15 Jun
9:03am, 15 Jun 2024
44,694 posts
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SPR
First comment on the last page (3 currently) makes a very good point that you'd obviously do the fast pace at intervals to get more mileage in. That's precisely the point of intervals.
I think the reality is neither is really training for the event they want to run but one can at least ensure they can complete it if they don't get too bored with the lack of challenge in their runs.
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15 Jun
9:42am, 15 Jun 2024
17,288 posts
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jda
Yes I did think about the HIIT stuff larkim but the problem is not general fitness per se, it’s the ability to run a marathon which is a very different kettle of kippers.
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15 Jun
11:26am, 15 Jun 2024
44,696 posts
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SPR
Maybe the fast pace guy can do 2 hour squats sessions to replicate the long run, lol.
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15 Jun
12:23pm, 15 Jun 2024
17,290 posts
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jda
No cross training allowed tho.
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15 Jun
12:25pm, 15 Jun 2024
44,697 posts
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SPR
Weight training is allowed but that would be obvious gaming of the system.
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RW sub3/3.15
Sep 2024
