The benefits of giving up alcohol

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8:19am, 8 Oct 2020
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Derby Tup
Great stuff Winnie

Rain here - not drinking weather
Oct 2020
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Looby Loo
Well done Winnie I’ve not managed a calendar month yet so that’s my new goal for November.
Thanks all would never have done it without you guys.
Oct 2020
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adrianb1066
Long time no Fetch.

Back exercising and jumped on the wagon three weeks ago so O am also in for today.
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Looby Loo
Welcome back adrianb 👍
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Pikelet
In for today. Hot chocolate may be happening later.
Oct 2020
9:17am, 8 Oct 2020
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Wombling Plodder (Welsh Womble)
Well done Looby 🤩 and Winnie 🤩
Oct 2020
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HappyG(rrr)
Really interesting Coronavirus management measure in Scotland from tomorrow for 2 weeks

Worst areas (central belt, including Edinburgh and Glasgow): pubs and licensed restaurants closed.
Rest of Scotland - pubs and licensed premises can serve outdoors only and closed at 6pm.

My wife's suggestion last night - if alcohol is perceived as part of the problem of non-adherence to rules, why not just remove licensing temporarily for 2 weeks, and allow pubs and restaurants to stay open to serve food and soft drinks?

Could it be fear of a message that says "Scotland goes dry"?

Anyway, well done everyone. I'm happy to be dry! :-) G
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9:35am, 8 Oct 2020
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mrs shanksi
That's a great idea from your wife 😀G.
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9:37am, 8 Oct 2020
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Wriggling Snake
That's an idea, may or may not work. Perhaps it is alcohol related, perhaps not.

20% of infections linked to pubs and restaurants in Scotland, Jason Leitch BBC this morning, so, according my maths, 80% are not, so these measures are clutching at straws, and, I think, will have no effect. It's is the workplace and people's homes which are the problem, homes could also be alcohol related too, perhaps not.

Leitch also said, 'we have TOLD people not mix across households, this must also be failing.

NW/NW England also going this way, BTW.
Oct 2020
9:49am, 8 Oct 2020
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Scorge
G - i think your wife's idea is quite good, but i reckon the alcohol factor is too deeply intertwined into the business model, especially of the pub because without it they have no distinguishing feature which will get people to use it. our overall culture is a big problem. it is a classic piece of tension - if you want to have the public health benefit of significantly reducing alcohol consumption and culture, you have to throw large chunks of the industry/jobs attached with it on the fire. if we had more of a continental approach and attitude (and the weather, natch), the hospitality industry might have a better outlook and find a third way. wasn't surprised to see the media having a field day with all the STURGEON WINNAE LET MAH HAV A PINT nonsense, oblivious to all the nuances of it.

in for today.

About This Thread

Maintained by HappyG(rrr)
Looks as though this thread has become popular again, here in 2010 (it's now 2024, and it started in 2008, so I think "ever popular" might be more apt! :-) G ) :-) Good Luck everyone.

A recent plea for those struggling to "reach out" as they say in US of A!

"Anyone not feeling strong and confident, please shout out. Or fmail. Or any other comms that works. Don't drink alcohol when you don't want to, for lack of someone to talk to. Pick up the phone, not the bottle."

Some acronyms, in case people use them:
JFT - Just for today
ODAAT - One day at a time
KIS - Keep it simple
TBOGUA - The Benefits Of Giving Up Alcohol (the title of this thread!)

New feature: article/blog of the month (period may change randomly!) Swittle's wonderful 14,611 days blog: (see links below)

Linking Joopsy's 17 year blog too, cos it's awesome!

There is a GREAT article summarising some of the benefits, to save you having to trawl through the thread (includes links to helpful apps and other resources).

And a great list of Alternative Drinks started by the lovely LindsD:

Please add to these articles and make them as valuable as possible! Thanks! :-) G

And one from way back when...
Dirt Monkey's brilliant blog on TBOGUA too - go try this...

Rebel has recommended a couple of good books:
The Unexpected Joy of Being Sober: THE SUNDAY TIMES BESTSELLER
by Catherine Gray

The Alcohol Experiment: 30 Days to Take Control, Cut Down or Give Up For Good
by Annie Grace

A great response from a health professional in Ireland responding to a question from a Guardian reader about why the warnings on alcoholic drinks that are coming in:

theguardian.com

"Alcohol is responsible for at least 1,000 cancer cases every year in Ireland, with one in eight breast cancer cases arising from alcohol use. Even one to two drinks per day increases the risk of developing cancer, and that risk is the same whether those drinks are wine, spirits or beer. Unfortunately, there is a very low level of public awareness that alcohol has been classed as a Group 1 carcinogen, meaning it is carcinogenic to humans. That is why Ireland has passed legislation that provides for health information labels on alcohol products, including warnings about cancer, liver disease and the danger of drinking in pregnancy. It is unsurprising that the alcohol industry, which promotes its products with carefully crafted myths of good times for all, is objecting to the mandatory provision of facts (Anger brews in Italy over Ireland’s plans for alcohol health warnings, 12 January).
Dr Sheila Gilheany
CEO, Alcohol Action Ireland
"

And the all important fabulous services:
Alcoholics Anonymous
National Helpline (FREE) 0800 9177 650
help@aamail.org

Al Anon
020 7403 0888

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We're adding in our own Fetch offer of one to one contact too, for anyone who doesn't want to post in the thread for whatever reason. Please feel free to fmail ANY of the names listed below.

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Derby Tup
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Note: we're none of us experts, but we're happy to listen, to answer any questions and to offer support if you think it would help you. Except star marked above. Who are experts! :-)

(Note II: at Christmas some names may change a bit, but I'm sure you can still find us to fmail!)

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