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RunnyBunny Apr 2022 12:48pm, 1 Apr 2022 1,327 posts	Quote Pin RunnyBunny GG - that seems very unfair (though sadly familiar). Do they expect you to have any kind of work-life balance?
Grast_girl Apr 2022 1:10pm, 1 Apr 2022 2,654 posts	Quote Pin Grast_girl Not really, and the responses I'm getting from immediate line managers are not exactly helping me bounce back from my disappointment.
RunnyBunny Apr 2022 1:13pm, 1 Apr 2022 1,328 posts	Quote Pin RunnyBunny I did some research on women academics in STEM who'd been on a career development programme and one of the comments that sticks in my mind was "This scheme has made me realise that it's not just me: everybody is treated badly." That obviously doesn't make it OK though.
LindsD Apr 2022 2:17pm, 1 Apr 2022 53,858 posts	Quote Pin LindsD I hear you G_g. I only got SL because I came in at that level from industry.
1step2far Apr 2022 2:31pm, 1 Apr 2022 6,807 posts	Quote Pin 1step2far GG that's rubbish and I'm so sorry. I've had similar experience, some of my colleagues are senior lecturers just because that was the role available when they applied. Some have little or no teaching experience and do less than those on lower bands. I won't even go in to my recent experience of fixed term contracts because I'm still really sad and angry about it. But I'm about to start another job in HE and I'm not sure it's such a good idea.
DrPhleecingD Apr 2022 7:15pm, 1 Apr 2022 53,976 posts	Quote Pin DrPhleecingD The precarity of academia is one of the worst aspects and seems to be pretty similar in other countries as well, sadly. I'm actually in the fortunate position that my job is being made permanent (across the OU, not just me). I do earn less than I used to though as a 25 year old working as a chemist. That's in actual numbers, not accounting for inflation. Teaching is scandalously badly paid in general.
Grast_girl Apr 2022 8:30pm, 1 Apr 2022 2,655 posts	Quote Pin Grast_girl I am wondering if I need to move to get SL. It would be a shame, but there are other things going on that are pushing things closer to that threshold where I start looking, although I'd feel awful for my PhD students (which is how they hook you).
LindsD Apr 2022 8:42pm, 1 Apr 2022 53,869 posts	Quote Pin LindsD Yup
LindsD Apr 2022 8:44pm, 1 Apr 2022 53,870 posts	Quote Pin LindsD I have to say we don't need grant money for SL. Publications, yes, but module leadership and other teaching/admin counts.
LindsD Apr 2022 8:44pm, 1 Apr 2022 53,871 posts	Quote Pin LindsD (Post 92 though)

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