So who won the tour from 1999 to 2005

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Chrisull Sep 2018 12:22pm, 9 Sep 2018 13,232 posts	0 Chrisull Without making an explicit connection (because there isn't one to be drawn), but in the last 10 years the world has also elected Trump, voted to leave the EU despite the fact it will be to a significant financial handicap, supplied Saudi Arabia with arms to bomb and massacre Yemeni civilians, left Libya an ungovernable wasteland in which all sorts of nasty radical factions run free, seen Putin assume a virtual dictatorship in Russia after rewriting the constitution so he could be president for more than 2 terms, seen the two major political parties in the UK move to the extremes, all within the public gaze.... so forgive me if I look at sport and think the worst of sportsman and women taking part. We know Froome AND Thomas (the UCI suspicion index where he outscored Lance Armstrong) have both big doubts in their backgrounds, Yates has failed a test and been banned and the Yates have the unofficial nickname "the TUE twins". The UCI are looking possibly like they are giving Sky the same kind of kidglove treatment they gave to US Postal. Any time one country dominates a sport, (East Germany, Russia, USA, Jamaica and now say Ethiopia and Kenya) drugs are involved. This doesn't mean I think they are all cheats or there is a vast industrialised mega-complex. But what I do think is that there will be a doping cottage industry, with the latest tech and some dubious doctors that riders can tap into. Micro dosing is one way forward. Going places where you are less likely to be tested out of competition another. I don't know how far advanced gene doping is, or the possibility of electrical currents through the brain are, but these will be damned hard to detect if they work. Whats for certain is one set of riders believe the winners (such as Froome) are doping, they will feel it is less of an ethical dilemma to dope themselves, as it will be just "evening up the playing field".
Derby Tup Jan 2019 9:30pm, 14 Jan 2019 28,549 posts	0 Derby Tup bbc.co.uk It’s all about getting those fractions of a per-cent just so . . .
larkim Jan 2019 10:08pm, 14 Jan 2019 6,513 posts	0 larkim Definitely a case to watch with interest, resuscitation if you are a broadly supportive of team sky Vs Dan roan.
Velociraptor Jan 2019 10:50pm, 14 Jan 2019 40,297 posts	0 Velociraptor I'll be watching this case with interest to see whether the GMC will deal assertively with Dr Freeman or will let him off with a warning or a suspension and reserve its teeth for tearing up undersupervised junior doctors. Even if he is only guilty of losing the laptop with medical records on it, the likes of me would get struck off for that.
larkim Jan 2019 7:10am, 15 Jan 2019 6,514 posts	0 larkim He didn't lose it, it was stolen. I don't think that would get you struck off a private practice incident surely?
Yorkshire Pie Jan 2019 7:15am, 15 Jan 2019 13,472 posts	0 Yorkshire Pie If you hadn't backed it up in the way you were meant to it might? Having the laptop stolen doesn't need to mean losing the data.
Yorkshire Pie Jan 2019 7:17am, 15 Jan 2019 13,473 posts	0 Yorkshire Pie [no expert of medical regulatory stuff but from a data protection point of view there are fines for theft etc where the breach is the failure to put appropriate protection in place to mitigate the effects if equipment is stolen. The theft is bad luck, the lack of backups isn't]
larkim Jan 2019 8:41am, 15 Jan 2019 6,515 posts	0 larkim I'm sure there are potentially some data protection concerns there, but if the data was encrypted on the drive (don't know) or was otherwise inaccessible to any thief (don't know) that would be a far less concerning issue. After all, paper documents may well be the single record of medical history and if lost in a fire or damaged etc there isn't necessarily any redress or sanction if they cannot be restored. I'm not for a moment arguing that failing to backup is bad practice, and cynics of course may suggest it is convenient that theft and lack of backup occurred. But we need to see what stands up as evidence in the hearing rather than speculate (myself included!!).
Velociraptor Jan 2019 8:49am, 15 Jan 2019 40,298 posts	0 Velociraptor Unless it was stolen from an extremely secure locked place (a domestic dwelling or locked car boot would be insufficient security) having confidential medical data stolen, and having it only recorded on a laptop without medical backup, is unacceptable. I'm not saying I think the regulations are reasonable, just that they should be applied to all doctors. Whether Brailsford, Sutton, or Wiggins used the testosterone interests me less. Not my circus and all that.
♪♫ ♪♫ Synge ♪♫ ♪♫ Jan 2019 4:15pm, 15 Jan 2019 26,900 posts	0 ♪♫ ♪♫ Synge ♪♫ ♪♫ Bit off topic, but I saw yesterday a campervan with the number plate PE 10 TON. No bike rack, which surprised me.