So who won the tour from 1999 to 2005

1 lurker | 80 watchers
Aug 2016
11:07am, 15 Aug 2016
14,419 posts
  •  
  • 0
The Teaboy
Paula's comment of 'unbelievable' - based on margin of breaking record.

If you're going to hoist her on that petard, remember that she broke (and held) the women's world marathon record by a greater percentage margin and no woman has yet got within three minutes of her best time (equivalent to 40s over 10k, or 0.4s over 100m)
Aug 2016
11:47am, 15 Aug 2016
9,620 posts
  •  
  • 0
Chrisull
Sounds like we might found out who Luigi is soon:

cyclingweekly.co.uk

The three it was alleged on velorooms forum it might have been are Flecha, Dekker and Cancellara, but circumstantial evidence points away from Cancellara and towards the other two:

velorooms.com
Aug 2016
11:48am, 15 Aug 2016
9,621 posts
  •  
  • 0
Chrisull
Also Tyler Hamilton is the source for the identity of Luigi (so credible), but never gives any backing as to why he should think/know this, he had very little dealings with him.
Aug 2016
12:27pm, 15 Aug 2016
14,422 posts
  •  
  • 0
The Teaboy
Looking forward to it!

I'm tired of the hypocrisy and double standards in the media - including (and sometimes especially) to our own athletes when we castigate other nations (often correctly) routinely.
Aug 2016
3:23pm, 15 Aug 2016
9,622 posts
  •  
  • 0
Chrisull
Dekker came forward and co-operated with the anti-doping agency in 2013. Sources at the time said he was "Luigi".

forum.cyclingnews.com

However internet forums decided it was a "conspiracy" to protect a more famous rider (ie Cancellara). Here's the bit that connects Tyler Hamilton to Cancellara:

uk.sports.yahoo.com

Smoke and mirrors? Seems like Cancellara was the "abused" rider by the Americans. Doesn't 100% say why he was abused, but guessing drugs related.

However the assertion that the whole nickname "Classicomano Luigi" pertains to a classics rider who was a client of Luigi Cecchini seems linguistically a bit dubious. Classicomano translates as classic hands - which could just refer to a rider with good bike handling skills. Anyway it's no clearer, just plenty of rabbit holes to disappear down. Only a DNA test will show for sure.
Aug 2016
9:13am, 21 Aug 2016
14,438 posts
  •  
  • 0
The Teaboy
Kinda bored with the Mo wankfest love-in.

Wish journos would actually ask the proper questions about Jama Aden, lying about his whereabouts and Salazar. Instead of doing the easy isn't Team GB wonderful bit.

It isn't just Mo, but there's so much stuff out there that it all needs tearing down...
Aug 2016
9:29am, 21 Aug 2016
9,638 posts
  •  
  • 0
Chrisull
Ditto Sky...
Aug 2016
10:06am, 21 Aug 2016
14,439 posts
  •  
  • 0
The Teaboy
I agree. It may indeed all be above board. But there are too many questions.
Aug 2016
12:37pm, 21 Aug 2016
5,738 posts
  •  
  • 0
paul the builder
TB - I don't know if this makes it better or worse, but there are British sports journalists who know that there are questions to be asked of Farah. But they feel that they can't, rightly or wrongly.

Irish journalist Ewen Mackenna tried - no-one followed up on Mo's evasive non-answers. But then Mackenna got congratulated for asking such a question later on by Brits.

balls.ie
Aug 2016
12:53pm, 21 Aug 2016
9,640 posts
  •  
  • 0
Chrisull
TB - I agree, both Farah and Sky maybe totally above board, but both have been evasive at the very least, told lies or half truths, when transparency would have been better, and enjoy squeaky clean status which means IF there is ever a reckoning, it could be of Lance Armstrong like proportions.

About This Thread

Maintained by fitzer
Given that Lance's wins now don't count.

Related Threads

  • cheating
  • cycling
  • doping
  • sports
  • tdf









Back To Top
X

Free training & racing tools for runners, cyclists, swimmers & walkers.

Fetcheveryone lets you analyse your training, find races, plot routes, chat in our forum, get advice, play games - and more! Nothing is behind a paywall, and it'll stay that way thanks to our awesome community!
Get Started
Click here to join 113,145 Fetchies!
Already a Fetchie? Sign in here