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Dai Bank
Dai Bank
Jun 2021
5:11pm, 27 Jun 2021
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Well that was a bit emotional, ITV went on a break so switched to Eurosport and watched MvdP bawl his eyes out, nearly got me going.
Prince Albert looked a bit out of place waiting for a handshake on the podium.
Chrisull
Chrisull
Jun 2021
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What a brilliant double attack, first time to get the bonus seconds to enable him to take the yellow, second time. Absolutely outstanding, two stages, two great finishes already.
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um
Jun 2021
6:25pm, 27 Jun 2021
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Larkim - ITV4 did have a 30 sec explanation 'for the pedants, or more correctly thos who like accuracy' and explained ... and reminded us it should be "Côte de Mûr-de-Bretagne"

But apparently there's also a convention or precedent that a final hill finish can be referred to as a 'mûr'. And Mûr-de-Côte de Mûr-de-Bretagne doesn't sound right.

But today, after yesterday's 2 big crashes, I was surprised how tightly the peloton was packed at high speed on roads with nowhere to go if anything happened.
.B.
.B.
Jun 2021
6:31pm, 27 Jun 2021
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It was emotional!
Maybe we could have another dream win tomorrow ..?
larkim
larkim
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9:49pm, 27 Jun 2021
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Yes, but the French word "Mur" meaning wall is not the same word as "Mûr". Hence the convention is irrelevant!

My amateurish french understanding is that Mûr would be derived from meur (the circumflex often matches a missing e or s e.g. hôtel (hostel), forêt (forest), there are fewer missing e examples though!). So the Mûr in Mûr de Bretagne doesn't in any sense mean "wall of Bretagne" despite the fact that "Mur de Bretagne" would mean that. I can see why anglophones would get it wrong, but it doesn't mean it's right to use it incorrectly!!
Cheg
Cheg
Jun 2021
10:12pm, 27 Jun 2021
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Decent racing in amongst the french lessons though?
swittle
swittle
Jun 2021
11:01pm, 27 Jun 2021
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Interesting in a different way from today's thrilling finish:

Note the caveat at the top of this 'wikionary' page: under 'Descendants', see Old Breton, and Breton forms, meaning 'great', 'big'; similar forms in a range of Celtic languages.

en.wiktionary.org

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Alice the Camel
Alice the Camel
Jun 2021
11:19pm, 27 Jun 2021
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That’s closer to my understanding of the word, swittle. I thought mûr related to a mountain in the Breton region.
swittle
swittle
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Happy to be corrected but I remember that the tv coverage showed a large outcrop, perhaps of granite, as the race passed through. I can't recall the name given to it.

...and now I'm struggling. My command of the official Breton language is rudimentary... ;)

brezhoneg.bzh
SPR
SPR
Jun 2021
11:40pm, 27 Jun 2021
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Via Inrng, it's the name of the place and the locals actually call the climb "Côte de Menéhiez"

inrng.com

This fits with the official TDF website: which refers to the climb initially by that and Côte de Mûr

letour.fr

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