21 Jan
4:57pm, 21 Jan 2025
25,774 posts
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Dave W
Hope you're right, TRO. Hope you are right.
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21 Jan
5:02pm, 21 Jan 2025
7,272 posts
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paulcook
TROSaracen wrote: It’s going to destroy the American right for a generation, and the ripples will undermine other regimes like Orban, Milei and demolish Farage here. Relax, take a chill pill and enjoy the show. Other than the fact it’s the US, therefore the biggest shark in the ocean, I think that’s the biggest takeaway - how to learn lessons and / or prevent outright fascism. If all we need to do in the UK is watch the show (and use it as evidence) I’d be happy. I’m not entirely convinced I share your optimism especially since I guess we were saying the same 8 years ago. Time will tell. |
21 Jan
5:07pm, 21 Jan 2025
46,869 posts
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SPR
Trump is in his second term, wasn't that supposed to be what happened in his first term? It's basically what the Democrats thought happened which why Biden thought his record would get him re-elected.
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21 Jan
5:09pm, 21 Jan 2025
18,375 posts
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jdawayinamanger
It’s well known that all that is needed to defeat evil is for good people to relax, sit back and enjoy the show.
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21 Jan
5:11pm, 21 Jan 2025
22,598 posts
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Chrisull
“They’re laying the groundwork for this mass deportation in a way that we haven’t seen before, including on an explicit directive for the military to start creating detention camps”. A quote of a quote I realise. The thing to remember is Trump deported less people than Obama did and only a few more than Biden did. STOP PRESS: in fact Biden just broke Trump's record too: bbc.co.uk We got the concentration camps threatened last time, and I do not underplay the "kids in cages" and muslim travel ban, both horrible. But Obama and Biden are not much better on this score, just they removed some of the hateful rhetoric and sharpest edges of what is still an unpleasant policy. |
21 Jan
5:18pm, 21 Jan 2025
3,525 posts
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Mushroom
The shit show is unlikely to be shown by the RW media to the people that vote. Much like the Brexit supporting media in the UK, they won't be quick to share the failures of Trump. It relies on an inquisitive public seeking out the facts, or at least some critical thinking. The US Presidents are elected by only a handful of swing states, and a huge number of Americans really don't care about much beyond their local towns. Unless they move away from watching Fox News I doubt there will be a huge issue for Trump. |
21 Jan
6:23pm, 21 Jan 2025
33,600 posts
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Johnny Blaze
Don't worry, Herr Hitler will destroy his country, you just watch. *calls Godwin's Law on self* |
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21 Jan
7:03pm, 21 Jan 2025
25,780 posts
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Dave W
Well to be fair he did in the end. But a lot of people had to suffer awfully between times.
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21 Jan
7:20pm, 21 Jan 2025
33,601 posts
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Johnny Blaze
Humouring Trump is like humouring a badger that's just found its way into your house and is proceeding to destroy the furniture and shit everywhere. Probably best not to let it in in the first place.
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21 Jan
8:01pm, 21 Jan 2025
5,780 posts
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J2R
Johnny Blaze wrote: Humouring Trump is like humouring a badger that's just found its way into your house and is proceeding to destroy the furniture and shit everywhere. Probably best not to let it in in the first place. Has this happened to you, JB? Sounds like the voice of bitter experience. |
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