Polarized training
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Dec 2016
5:37pm, 30 Dec 2016
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Dillthedog57
And I agree with the comments above, particularly when marathon training, that it is best to do as many miles as possible without getting injured. I also subscribe to the idea that the best training plan is the one that keeps you on the road, training consistently!
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Dec 2016
5:54pm, 30 Dec 2016
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Canute
FR, The effects of cortisol are complex: in general transient rises is response to stress are beneficial but sustained levels cause tissue damage. However the situation is even more complex because the body compensates for the effects of elevated cortisol. Cortisol illustrates the point of Einstein’s comment that you should keep things as simple as possible but no simpler. The study by Balsalobre-Fernandez that I described in my word-press blog almost 2 weeks ago canute1.wordpress.com is one of the most detailed. They measured cortisol, neuromuscular coordination, training load and performance over a 10 month period in high level middle and long distance runners. They found that high cortisol averaged over the season was associated with poor neuromuscular coordination, but in the short term high cortisol was associated with improved performance. When they examined the relationship between performance and training load they found that better performance that lesser amounts of higher intensity training were associated with better performance than higher volume lower intensity (training (though the lower intensity training was nonetheless moderately demanding – with a large proportion near LT. DTD, I doubt you are too old for intervals. There are studies showing the HIIT is effective for people somewhat older than you. However you have clearly examined your own responses to training with care, and you should apply the lessons that your own experiences have taught you. Keeping on the road consistently is the first priority |
Dec 2016
6:35pm, 30 Dec 2016
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Dillthedog57
Canute - I am very much looking at myself and my own training. I see a lot of people older than myself training much harder and not picking up injuries. I just don't seem to be as robust, and am probably a bit of a minority case, which is why I think I need to look carefully at my own training, and see how my body reacts. I am also hopeful to still be running for many more years, so have a bit of an eye for my long term prospects, perhaps at the expense of short term results
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Dec 2016
6:46pm, 30 Dec 2016
10,460 posts
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Chrisull
Maffetone maybe a doctor but some of what he says on his web site is pure quackery (like don't eat in restaurants), and my personal experience with Maffetone is that I lose speed when persisting with it for 2 months, and his predictions for my pace are way, way, way out on his Maffetone runs and the Maffetone speed test for me is no predictor of race pace I can do 8.20 pace runs at Maffe pace and only manage 42 min 10ks, or do 8.40 pace runs for the same HR and do 41 min 10k. He neglects pace, and as soon I as injected pace/strength I got faster. It also runs totally contrary to what I was taught on my CIRF course by coaches with elite clients, and they were actually quite dismissive about the whole principle of 'one paced' training. Polarised makes sense, you don't need much pace at all, but you do need to stimulate the muscles and do neural muscular training. I've not seen any evidence in studies or the books in my library on my book shelf that a little bit of cortisol destroys all the base work. |
Dec 2016
8:03pm, 30 Dec 2016
2,537 posts
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Ninky Nonk
If I remember right maffetone is a podiatrist.
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Dec 2016
4:34pm, 31 Dec 2016
2,540 posts
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Ninky Nonk
Haven't read but this may be of interest... jyx.jyu.fi |
Dec 2016
4:54pm, 31 Dec 2016
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Fenland (Fenners) Runner
Just saying, all month I've run in zone 1 (probably slower than Maffetone suggests) and then pull my fastest parkrun for about six months, at between 68 & 69% WAVA.
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Dec 2016
4:55pm, 31 Dec 2016
11,004 posts
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Fenland (Fenners) Runner
Chris, we are all different, you've tried it and it didn't work, move on.
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Dec 2016
5:10pm, 31 Dec 2016
23,304 posts
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SPR
FR - If praise of a method is valid so is criticism and one paced running is not the best training method long term (although it might be for short period of time) even if you can improve just doing that (don't know if that's what Maffetone advocates). Even Hadd doesn't advocate that. Congrats on the 5k though, think you have faster times in you if you want them. |
Dec 2016
5:12pm, 31 Dec 2016
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Fenland (Fenners) Runner
Is that not what I said? One man's meat is another man's poison.
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