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Polarized training

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J2R
May 2016
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J2R
HOD, I tend to think in terms of working heart rate, rather than absolute maximum heart rate. But in MHR terms, what I posted just now in the 'Heart Rate' thread is relevant: "FWIW, going by Pfitzinger's definition of recovery pace as mentioned by Huntsman above (below 76% MHR), pretty well all my easy runs are recovery runs. In fact most of them are below 73-74% MHR, and often below 70% MHR. A run I was thinking of specifically as a recovery run would probably be 65-70% MHR. "

GlennR, I think Canute would perhaps take issue with your suggestion that the tempo isn't necessary. I don't think it's ruled out in polarized training, just given far less importance than in some other training ideas. I think it's recommended that you do some tempo runs, or something akin to tempo runs, as a kind of race pace training as race day approaches. I'm not bothering with them at all at the moment, though, because it's a very busy time of the year for races, with at least one a week and sometimes two (a Wednesday evening 5K, 5 miler or 10K as well as weekend races). While there are two races a week, I'm not doing any other speedwork either and just running really easy on the non-race days.
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GlennR
J2R, Canute can speak for himself once he resurfaces. :)

This is something he posted as a comment on my blog a while back, after I'd been doing a set of cruise intervals:

"My main reservation about tempo training is that sustaining threshold pace for 20 minute or more is relatively stressful and as a result the ratio of benefit to stress is less favourable than with many other types of training. However, I think cruise intervals achieve simiilar benefit with less stress."
J2R
May 2016
9:59am, 13 May 2016
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J2R
We're probably saying much the same thing, then, GlennR. I was thinking of tempo runs as meaning any sustained running at or around the lactate threshold, whereas you were clearly using the term in a stricter sense as meaning LT runs for around 20 minutes or more. I believe that some training around lactate threshold is probably beneficial, and cruise intervals fit the bill nicely.

My tempo-run substitute of racing is undoubtedly rather more stressful to the body than is ideal from a training point of view, but as it's what I train for, to do otherwise would be to put the cart before the horse.
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Hills of Death (HOD)
Sounds like most of my runs J2R anyway Glenn keeps an eye on it for me ;-).

I see loads of people fall foul of this I tell RMO3b this constantly she would improve if she didn't do her 'easy' runs at 160 bpm
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GlennR
...and will they listen? No they won't.

All the years I've wasted on the HR thread... ;)
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FenlandRunner
There is a trap though, HoD, you need volume for churning out all the slow stuff.

If you're running 'low' mileage (and that is subjective) I do see value in getting the mileage completed at high(er) intenisty.
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GlennR
If you're running low mileage - and I am - then you *can* put in some high intensity stuff, but take rest days afterwards.
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FenlandRunner
*like* :)
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Hills of Death (HOD)
You will need to define volume ;-)
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FenlandRunner
Volume is subjective and relative to the individual.

About This Thread

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Polarised training is a form of training that places emphasis on the two extremes of intensity. There is a large amount of low intensity training (comfortably below lactate threshold) and an appreciable minority of high intensity training (above LT).

Polarised training does also include some training near lactate threshold, but the amount of threshold training is modest, in contrast to the relatively high proportion of threshold running that is popular among some recreational runners.

Polarised training is not new. It has been used for many years by many elites and some recreational runners. However, it has attracted great interest in recent years for two reasons.

First, detailed reviews of the training of many elite endurance athletes confirms that they employ a polarised approach (typically 80% low intensity, 10% threshold and 10% high intensity. )

Secondly, several scientific studies have demonstrated that for well trained athletes who have reached a plateau of performance, polarised training produces greater gains in fitness and performance, than other forms of training such as threshold training on the one hand, or high volume, low intensity training on the other.

Much of the this evidence was reviewed by Stephen Seiler in a lecture delivered in Paris in 2013 .
vimeo.com

In case you cannot access that lecture by Seiler in 2013, here is a link to his more recent TED talk.

ted.com
This has less technical detail than his 2013 talk, but is nonetheless a very good introduction to the topic. It should be noted that from the historical perspective, Seiler shows a US bias.

Here is another useful video by Stephen Seiler in which he discusses the question of the optimum intensity and duration of low intensity sessions. Although the answer ‘depends on circumstances’ he proposes that a low intensity session should be long enough to reach the point where there are detectable indications of rising stress (either the beginning of upwards drift of HR or increased in perceived effort). If longer than this, there is increasing risk of damaging effects. A session shorter than this might not be enough to produce enough stress to achieve a useful training effect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GXc474Hu5U


The coach who probably deserves the greatest credit for emphasis on the value of low intensity training was Arthur Lydiard, who coached some of the great New Zealanders in the 1960's and Scandinavians in the 1970’s. One of his catch-phrases was 'train, don't strain'. However Lydiard never made it really clear what he meant by ‘quarter effort’. I have discussed Lydiard’s ideas on several occasions on my Wordpress blog. For example: canute1.wordpress.com

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