More efficient running style

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Sep 2021
10:48pm, 21 Sep 2021
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Canute
Kieren, I am sorry to hear that you have been injured.

GRF is approximately proportional to body weight divided by the proportion of time spent on stance. As you usually spend a smaller proportion of the stride duration on stance as you increase pace, GRF increases. Therefore as you come back from injury, be cautious about getting airborne. If you plan to use both cycling and running to recover fitness, I would be inclined to consider a combination of easy running and more intense cycling in the early stages.
Sep 2021
11:24pm, 21 Sep 2021
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Kieren
Thanks Canute. I picked up an avulsion fracture to my talus in a trail race. As injuries go, it's not terrible. I could do other types of fitness and load bear to an extent - more so than say a knee or back injury.

I've been able to spin and resistance train. Eversion and dorsiflexion were the laggards but are finally catching up. I was thinking about track intervals because they are flat but defer to your suggestion. I see the physio on Friday whom I think will give me very cautious beginner plan.
SPR
Nov 2022
7:30pm, 14 Nov 2022
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SPR
Whelp!

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J2R
Nov 2022
9:03pm, 14 Nov 2022
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J2R
Awful!
Nov 2022
10:24pm, 14 Nov 2022
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Hills of Death (HOD)
What that shit
Nov 2022
7:42am, 15 Nov 2022
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tipsku
Looks like overstriding to me. Ouch 😣
Nov 2022
7:44am, 15 Nov 2022
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HappyG(rrr)
Ooh, os it back?! :-) G
Sep 2023
12:44pm, 26 Sep 2023
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Kieren
Thank goodness there are only 92 pages for me to review here.

The talus fracture has cascaded into other problems for me. I had a 3D gait analysis (3 high speed cameras and small markers on feet, legs hips) to record.

The left foot is very stiff and very slow to pronate which some knee valgus. Anterior pelvic tilt and tight hips mean my glutes barely contribute to push off. I have higher than standard vertical oscillation. I can't dorsiflex so struggle to get over my knee and under-stride.

I forefoot land and heels rarely touch the ground.

All of those things place additional load on the calves and Achilles. That makes sense - my calves are huge and I have an Achilles problem.

Some things should be easy to fix, like core strength for hip alignment, hip mobility. The dorsiflexion needed intervention (trying a steroid injection and a focus on mobility in the 3 weeks it should last).

I forefoot land. One of the things I was advised to do was switch to mid -foot landing. Hoka shoes with an early stage rocker we suggested as a possible help.

Most of the advise I can find on improving form is to prevent over-striding and heel strike. I'm coming the opposite end.

I might have to see someone who can advise me real time on a treadmill but at the moment, I'm not running and like to keep money in my wallet.

So here I am - bumping the thread. Maybe there are some new thoughts? I'll be starting from page 1 this evening.
Sep 2023
1:38pm, 26 Sep 2023
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GlennR
Hi Kieren.

If you start from page one you will need treatment for mental as well as physical health by the end.
Sep 2023
2:08pm, 26 Sep 2023
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HappyG(rrr)
Start heel striking? ;-) Sorry Kieren, nothing useful to offer (obviously!) Hope you can find some resolutions and improvement. :-) G

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