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Moraghan Training - Stevie G - RW thread

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10 Jul
8:29pm, 10 Jul 2025
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Sorequads
For me, @LBAC Si, best super shoe going.

Seem to have a hamstring strain. Bit of an arse with some nice trails to explore in Croatia. And a buffet to keep at bay.
10 Jul
9:01pm, 10 Jul 2025
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stevieg
Fancy sounding shoe that Simon.
Think I'll stick with Vapors until further notice.

Sorry to hear about your arse @Sorequads Hope you don't need to change your username.

I was 50-50 whether to do Friday track or a Sat parkrun birthday turnout.
But bearing in mind it's 24 degrees at 9am on Sat there's nothing to be gained there, so i'll stick with track.

The beauty is one of the coaches asked what people fancied and as one of those bastads who can't resist posting way too much on group whatsapp chats, I got in and recommended 200s.

Basically the same we did on a similarly mad heat day last year:

Groups of 3, 20-25 reps each, lash a 200m, then rest 2 legs and so on.

Will be hard work for say 36-40secs but nice recovery, stolen chats and way more fun than slogging any sort of long rep would be to say the least!
10 Jul
9:04pm, 10 Jul 2025
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stevieg
I think last year for some inexplicable reason they had us lined up at what they thought was the 50m and 150m points.

Instead of the much more obvious start line and 200m lines!

And obviously managed to get the points slightly wrong, so I think we actually ended up doing something more like 180m v 220m or 190m v 210m, so odd numbers came out quicker than evens!
11 Jul
9:39am, 11 Jul 2025
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Foppotee
I have the original metaspeed sky, lovely and comfy and natural feeling to run in but I have never been convinced they are actually that quick.
11 Jul
6:06pm, 11 Jul 2025
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Muddyfunster
My absolute top tip for a cheaper but nevertheless highly effective carbon plated shoe is the Puma Deviate Nitro Elite 3. Got mine off SportsShoes and with England Athletics discount they came in less than £130 (though it looks like they are pricing the new colours higher right now). I really enjoy them - feel much more nimble than any Vaporfly variation, but with all the energy return and protection to boot.

Hope the back is ok @Curly45 ? Likewise @Sorequads with the hamstring. Good work on the cross country @Forrest Jooligan saw it went down the same night as my race and from strava looked like a really good pace.

Stevieg, given the evening temperatures this week, I’d have leapt at the chance of a morning parkrun over evening track.

The knee continues to cause trouble but managed three runs and three gym sessions so far this week. Filling in the running gaps with minutes on the elliptical. The rolled ankle seems to have recovered without any issues.

I turned out for the third of four midweek summer races on Wednesday evening. 27 degrees and barely a breath of wind. The warm up of about 0.8 of a mile felt stifling, and I was not relishing the prospect of an undulating 10k at all. At the end of the warm up I realised my running watch battery had ran out. Quick scarper to the car and plugged the watch into charge there for 5 minutes before legging it to the start line with the briefing in full swing and the watch on 11%.

I’d barely got my bearings and then everyone was moving off - slightly quizzically looking round in surprise at the inauspicious start. It wasn’t a large field - maybe 100 or so club runners making their way down a narrow tractor lane at a farm, and there wasn’t a pressing need to get ahead of the throng. After about 400m we were off the farm and into the undulating country lanes. I wasn’t racing for a time but wanted to do enough to keep my place as the series leader in my age category. Had a scout ahead of me and picked out the two contenders who were neck and neck with each other and had gone off quick.

After we’d gone through a couple of rises and falls I’d drawn level and wondered whether I should just sit with them and conserve myself for the last couple of km, but around the 2km marker I thought I’d prefer to run my own race and see what came out, so I pushed on a bit. One of them came with and we picked up a young lad on the way, so it was basically the three of us sticking together with me trying to stretch things until around 4k, where a poorly placed arrow had me heading up the wrong lane at a junction. Swift u-turn and got back on the route but with the gap I had built up removed. Young lad agreed with me that the course was not clearly marked.

The 5km marker seemed to take an age to arrive as I maintained the effort and re-built the gap, trying to count the number of feet pattering behind me, but beyond 6km I couldn’t hear much and was listening to the course marshalls shouts of encouragement to get an idea of the gap. Heaven forbid I look back ! In retrospect this was a mile or so that had a lot of climb in it and was the slowest of my race, so must have been where everyone suffered.

A couple of cyclists came by and offered encouragement saying I was making it look easy, and though I was at a high effort and tested by the heat, I felt relaxed, and I could concentrate on a couple of figures in the distance. More ups and downs and turns and some shaded sections followed while I negotiated with myself as to when I was going to lift the effort just in case anyone was coming through with a big negative split. Could I leave it as late as 9km or should I start the push at 8km ?

In a way it was moot because while I was having that internal debate I gradually caught the two in front by 8km and then the next one along was probably too far to catch, so I saved myself for the last km which had the steepest 400m uphill of the course. Once I’d toiled up that it was just two left turns and a rumble along the tractor track to produce an inauspicious finish to match the start. 38.26 official, and happy enough with 30 seconds faster than last year which was about ten degrees cooler.
11 Jul
8:36pm, 11 Jul 2025
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Forrest Jooligan
Thanks @Muddyfunster Sounds like another decent performance from you.

Another turn out Wednesday night at the Herefordshire & Borders XC Summer League.

A rolling 2 lap course around a farm.

Very hot just walking the third of a mile from the car park to registration.
Doused myself in water before a mile warm-up & again before heading to the start.
Started with a brief uphill stretch before the first, long, lap (5.5K) Narrow start for the size of the field (200) so began towards the front streaming past as we climbed the hill then once we got to the flat I got into my rhythm & began overtaking people here & continued on the descent. I was going well with a 4:30 first K & then picked up from there with 4:23, 4:15, 4:22 & then 4:35 for the fifth which climbed steadily. The second shorter lap (3K) was a bit tougher as I was tiring & overheating but I was still overtaking the occasional runner so managed to push to the end.

Finished in 41st of 194 finishers which was 31 places higher than a fortnight ago & 3rd MV55 vs 6th last time. There were a few heat casualties too.
Easy 4M yesterday & just a long walk today before parkrun tomorrow.
12 Jul
8:44pm, 12 Jul 2025
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stevieg
@Muddyfunster I do like my Sat lie ins, so a 24/25 9am temp for a parkrun wasn't attractive enough, not when they're there every week.

Decent turnout from you

Good placing from you as well @Forrest Jooligan

Track was the lowest numbers I've seen since joining this Friday track gang about 2 or more years ago. The faces can change quite a bit from block to block, but just 9 there last night.

Mostly the heat I think, rather than them not fancying 200s!

Teams of 3, just me and a 30 ish year old guy from the usual faster lot, and choice of 20 or 25 reps.
We chose 25, though our 3rd guy bailed at 20, meaning my colleague estimated 2 leg timings meaning I could go off a usual when he came in.

Kept them fairly sensible, one because it was 31 degrees and two because I'm not used to doing such a high vol of 200s, it's usually 12 or 16 gunned.

With so few out on the track, basically just 3 people "live" running at any one time, there was very little incentive to gun them too.

The only 2 I smashed were when there was a runner in site trying to push theirs, hence one 31 and one 32!!

The 31 was a guy rocking 40s suddenly banging a 34 - had to laugh!

Though wasn't laughing for a couple of reps after each smash.

But good fun, and wildest range ever on 200s of 31 through to 38, probably averaging 36xx or so really.
If consistent and more sensible weather could probably aim 35s, which i think my younger pal managed.
12 Jul
8:45pm, 12 Jul 2025
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stevieg
*sight, not site, flip sake :)
8:33am
8:33am, 13 Jul 2025
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Curly45
As bad as me @stevieg Hope you had a good birthday and didn't suffer the extra volume!

Good racing @Muddyfunster and @Forrest Jooligan

I did no walk in the park 5k yesterday. Still a bit gingerly because of back/hamstring origin, but it went okay. 22:25 on a hot day, not flat course, 5 laps. 2nd lady. Was chasing down 1st for a while but never really closed the gap enough to push hard for it.

Happy that seems no lasting damage from the slip, no more races until the end of the month so can build up a bit more speed hopefully.

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Maintained by stevieg
Hi there - this thread started in 2010 over on RW and started as an improvement thread for myself under Moraghan's coaching, through to more of a general collaboration tool and place to share training and long winded race reports.

Thanks to the fetch community for allowing us to move over, and we'd welcome loads of new contributors adding to the thread, as we were definitely running on empty with a small bunch of posters near the end!
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