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Oct 2007
6:13pm, 25 Oct 2007
1,764 posts
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eL Bee!
phal - almost certainly that 235 (and possibly the 220 as well) were anomolous spikes.
If not (and if you can, heed judes excellent advice tondownload the data and look at the curve) you should get it checked out!
There is a point at which the Heart Rate can't be a normal rhythm, and in a fit healthy adult, those are above it!
I suspect jude is right, a connection problem
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Oct 2007
7:27pm, 25 Oct 2007
81 posts
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Parmie - Well done nice to hit a target:o)
Girlie - Agreed on the long runs, I don't get bored and don't ever listen to music. I'm a real sado and try to concentrate on my running form and get my heart rate as los as possible by relaxing. Doesn't alway work but I try.
Coulnd'nt get outside today so it was the dreaded treadmill. In line with this HR training started with
10mins warm up at 8.5 min mile pace then
10 mins then 6.30 Pace for10 mins
5mins at 8.5
5mins at 6.30
5 mins at 8.5
Averaged out at 154 77%.
Being new to this I can see it must be damned difficult to get much time in at 85%. I did a total of 35 mins with about 16 mins at the 85% mark.
Not sure if that is enough but couldn't manage much more without risking injury on a treadmill.
On running slowly. When I started I was so damned unfit that even a slow run was too much and also I needed to shed a few pounds. Felt I was running so slow that I was in danger of injuring myself. I started off for about a month just walking fast on a treadmill on an ever increasing slope. Surprising how hight it pushed the HR.
Boring as hell but got the job done. Just a thought!!
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Oct 2007
9:10pm, 25 Oct 2007
13 posts
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Hi Again,
*puts hand up in class nervously!*
I've found this thread really useful, and the advice from everyone has been really helpful and made me a fan of this training method. I found the banter amusing, and felt it was meant that way.
However, with all the, lets say "off thread" posts over the last day or so, my plea for comments seems to have gone unnoticed. Anyone fancy popping back to page 532 and giving me an opinion on the suitability of my training regime?
Thanks a lot, Mark
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Oct 2007
9:13pm, 25 Oct 2007
1,424 posts
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Girlie
Scuba- sounds very similar to what I do, although I haven't been doing the tempo runs recently as my achilles complains a bit! Your pace for 70% sounds very close to wha tmine was at the start as well.
I'm sure someone far more knowledgable than me will be along shortly, but if you want to compare your runs with mine, i'm happy to be a buddy, so you can see my training log. I started HRM training in June.
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Oct 2007
9:19pm, 25 Oct 2007
1,898 posts
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hellen
i've deliberatly stayed away after yesterday.
I have been thinking about my training and the way forward quite a lot over the last week or so and have decided to take a sabatical from the parker method, I will however be lurking.
I would however like to thank those who have been helpful and encouraging whilst I have tried to persevere with it. for the time being though I want to enjoy my runnning and not feel stressed when I get back from another slow slow run where I had to keep walking.
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Oct 2007
9:21pm, 25 Oct 2007
1,222 posts
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Scuba - sounds like a good plan in general but I'm not an expert. Are you training for a specific race? How many miles are you running per week?
If the tempo run is not giving you results then have a change - try intervals instead for a few weeks (at a faster pace but with recoveries), then go back to the tempo runs or do a mix. Or you could try a different route if your normal tempo run is on the same route.
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Oct 2007
10:12pm, 25 Oct 2007
400 posts
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Woad Wunner
I have always found this thread to be a great place of support for the HR training and can't say I found any of the recent few days posts in anyway tasteless - but them thats me. Yes there is humour and light-heartedness (in the usual fetch style) but the serious advice is always forthcoming for those that want it, without reproach or intimidation.
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Oct 2007
10:15pm, 25 Oct 2007
401 posts
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Woad Wunner
Scuba - you plan sounds fine to me and very similar to what I was doing when I started HR training earlier this year, although I have not been doing as many tempo runs of late.
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Oct 2007
10:35pm, 25 Oct 2007
14 posts
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Thanks Girlie, Lucky and WW,
Girlie, I'll take you up on the buddy offer if you don't mind, it would be helpful, thanks.
Lucky, Been running about 20 months and my runs and races were all at the "fast as i can" pace, and although made good progress I'd plateaued and just was not getting any faster no matter how hard I ran. I was getting disheartened then I heard about this method. Decided to take a step back from races for a bit and try this. Glad i did, I really look forward to my long slow runs now. Only doing 16-20 miles a week, but unfortunately its all I can fit in. I enjoy the tempo run as its a nice change to the slow ones, but the interval suggestion is a good one, might try that, thanks
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Oct 2007
10:38pm, 25 Oct 2007
2,235 posts
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Kieren
Personally, I think you see more of a benefit faster from training in the 70-75% range.
Parker is very conservative which is great - it will probably stop people getting injured. His book is heavily based on Lydiards coaching methods which are a really great read - in fact, if you are following Parker, I think you'd do well to read up a bit on Lydiard to get a broader understanding.
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