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fetcheveryone
fetcheveryone
Jun 2022
3:07pm, 8 Jun 2022
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The graph isn't showing years though. It's the 12 months from your chosen start date (which defaults to the most current 12 months).
fetcheveryone
fetcheveryone
Jun 2022
3:10pm, 8 Jun 2022
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I've done a bit more to filter out months with zero data from the bottom graph.
larkim
larkim
Jun 2022
3:31pm, 8 Jun 2022
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oops, my bad! I assumed they were all years rather than months; must have misread the tooltips!

In terms of zero data, does the rest of the page include runs with zero data in the averages? I know it's not possible / realistic / sensible to exclude data which might be "well dodgy" as some HRM data is, but just curious if individual entries with zero data make it into the calculations.
fetcheveryone
fetcheveryone
Jun 2022
3:39pm, 8 Jun 2022
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They shouldn't be doing so, no.
larkim
larkim
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Ta - I've clearly got some odd old data in mine. e.g. fetcheveryone.com/t-9063168 where despite there being HRM data for most of the run it's not until about 3.5 miles into it that a BPM calc comes along. Probably just a legacy issue with an older processing of the runs; I'm not really that interested in Feb 13, but I had fewer entries to look at to cross check the data against!
Bowman 🇸🇪
Bowman 🇸🇪
Jun 2022
12:56pm, 11 Jun 2022
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I can’t really figure out my different thresholds and what not.
A few days ago I hit 192 MHR on an all out 5km, and that has been my MHR setting since a while back to. A few years ago I could hit 205, so my MHR has always been in the higher regions.

My watch has me at 172 bpm for the lactate threshold.

But today I could run way over that, at about 95% of my MHR for most of my 10k, and it was not all out. But a good effort for sure.

How do you guys set your MHR, LTH?
Is MHR the highest you reach on a good day, or a few beats over that?
How do you set your LTH? By % of MHR, or by feel at a certain level?
Shades
Shades
Jun 2022
2:49pm, 11 Jun 2022
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Assuming you're using a chest strap so getting accurate data...if you ran as hard as you could and didn't throw up or need oxygen then definitely add a few beats on.

Your MHR test also needs to be done when you're well rested, not overtired. If you're tired it's hard to get the HR up.

There's a test you can do for LTH, if you Google Matt Fitzgerald .
Bowman 🇸🇪
Bowman 🇸🇪
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Ok, great, I thought so about the MHR.
Yes I’ll look in to Matt Fitzgerald, cheers!
Brunski
Brunski
Jun 2022
4:13pm, 11 Jun 2022
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172 lactate threshold (or turnpoint) and a 192 max sounds about right - around 90% of your max.

My max is around 168-171 and lactate turnpoint/threshold usually about 149-152.

I'll race a 10k a bit above threshold when we'll trained.
Bowman 🇸🇪
Bowman 🇸🇪
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Ok, so it might be in the ballpark then.
So to be able to run 10k a bit over LTH, what does that mean then?
That race pace is ok over LTH for a 10k, and manageable?
But if you can be pretty consistent in pace, doesn’t that mean that it does not accumulate lactate to fast to be able to maintain the speed?
But I guess it’s a sliding scale too of course.

I will try to run for a bit at around 172bpm and not more, and se how that feels. In a few days :)

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