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Jun 2020
1:18pm, 28 Jun 2020
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Nellers
https://youtu.be/OuRHpChBs3I


This is a bit of a lengthy one and it doesn't talk directly about HR training as such. I know it's talking rowing not running BUT it's actually talking physiology in endurance sports. It explains really well the benefits of building a really good aerobic base and how that will help with peak performance.

That's basically what this thread is all about right?
Jun 2020
2:52pm, 28 Jun 2020
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GlennR
Yup.
Jun 2020
5:19pm, 28 Jun 2020
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Paul N
Just shy of 15 miles this afternoon. Average Pace 10.59, Average HR 131.

25 seconds a mile quicker than Friday of pretty much the same average HR. Notably spent as much time trying to get the heart rate up to 130 as I did down to 130.

Route was half trail with enough hills to make it interesting, weather certainly more challenging.

An enjoyable run all in all, and a move in the right direction.

Nellers, haven't watched your vid yet, but you might enjoy the Extramilest Show podcast. Very focused on this topic and specific to running. Sage Canaday also does a lot on his youtube channel
Jun 2020
5:31pm, 28 Jun 2020
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Nellers
I might have a look Paul.

TO be honest, though, with my Achilles issues I'm more an indoor rower than a runner these days so what this guy is talking about is right up my Strasse.
Jun 2020
8:53pm, 28 Jun 2020
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Gobi
I dont listen to podcasts or really watch many training explantions as I prefer to read but if these work for people.

Nellers - DO you have a concept 2 ?
Jun 2020
9:02pm, 28 Jun 2020
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Nellers
Yes Gobi. Bought one December 2018. It's in my shed. At the moment I'm rowing maybe 4 to 6 sessions a week in amongst everything else I'm trying to do.
Jun 2020
9:04pm, 28 Jun 2020
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Gobi
I have seen this on strava mate - can't beat a concept 2
Jun 2020
9:09pm, 28 Jun 2020
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Nellers
The bit in the video that I thought was most helpful was an analogy to jumping for height.

Say you are 6 feet tall and you can maybe jump and reach to 10 feet. That 4 foot jump height is your anaerobic capacity and you can train it a bit. Maybe with training you can get yourself to jump to 11 feet but you'll struggle to do much more. It's quite limited, although fairly quick to train.

Your aerobic/base/low HR training isn't training you to jump. It's building a box for you to stand on so you're already above the ground before you jump. If you do enough aerobic base training over time you can build a really big stable box that you can jump off and maybe the box will be another 5 or 6 feet off the ground in the end and you're jumping from there.

That feels like how this stuff works. Make sense?
Jun 2020
9:11pm, 28 Jun 2020
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Nellers
I agree on the Concept2. When I first did for my Achilles I went to the local gym and as luck would have it the only thing at that stage that didn't hurt for cardio was the C2. I got addicted.

I got my "5 Million Metres Club" shirt from Concept 2 earlier this year.
Jun 2020
9:27pm, 28 Jun 2020
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Gobi
I call it making a cake

Speed work is the icing

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Everything you need to know about training with a heart rate monitor. Remember the motto "I can maintain a fast pace over the race distance because I am an Endurance God". Mind the trap door....

Gobi lurks here, but for his advice you must first speak his name. Ask and you shall receive.

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"The area between the top of the aerobic threshold and anaerobic threshold is somewhat of a no mans land of fitness. It is a mix of aerobic and anaerobic states. For the amount of effort the athlete puts forth, not a whole lot of fitness is produced. It does not train the aerobic or anaerobic energy system to a high degree. This area does have its place in training; it is just not in base season. Unfortunately this area is where I find a lot of athletes spending the majority of their seasons, which retards aerobic development. The athletes heart rate shoots up to this zone with little power or speed being produced when it gets there." Matt Russ, US International Coach
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