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Sep 2019
9:15am, 11 Sep 2019
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K5 Gus
StuH, by average pace do you mean a high pace = low speed ?

The speed at the higher end of the HR, ie at > 160 bpm, would have been where i was going slowest ( top of a steep mtb climb ), so that's a possibility.

It could do with some figures on the y-axis ( or something showing on rollover as in the the other HR graph ) that gives some meaning.

If still no definitive answer in here later today I'll send some feedback and report back when I get an answer
Sep 2019
10:19am, 11 Sep 2019
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Sam Jelfs
It shows average pace (minutes / <km/mile>)
Sep 2019
11:17am, 11 Sep 2019
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larkim
I don't think it's that, Sam, unless you're doing a calc that I don't quite understand.

e.g. see an intervals session fetcheveryone.com/t-15488515

Average pace there should be up, down, up, down etc, whereas the graph there doesn't fit that pattern. I'd expect it to be HR related, and the data points are consistent with the bar data points (i.e. there is a point in each "bar").
Sep 2019
11:20am, 11 Sep 2019
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StuH
It's not average pace over time, but average pace against HR as shown on the bottom axis. So your workout shows a dip in pace at 140-145bpm which coincides with your recoveries.
Sep 2019
11:34am, 11 Sep 2019
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larkim
Hmm, I'm still not seeing that. Wouldn't that show a much higher average pace at higher HRs, as opposed to a broadly flat line with a hump in it at about 140bpm? The hump upwards indicates faster average pace (normally), though it could be inverted I suppose - without a scale it's not very useful!
Sep 2019
11:37am, 11 Sep 2019
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larkim
It seems I asked about this graph when the new training log was being put in place - last post on this page - fetcheveryone.com/forum__60107__6__new_training_log_prototype answered by Fetch on the following pace - "pace by heart rate" I think.
Dec 2019
9:43am, 19 Dec 2019
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Nellers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MALsI0mJ09I&t=195s


Stumbed across this. It's basically an academic telling people what most of us already know: Build a big aerobic base and only top it off with the intensity stuff. Some nice stats about various sets of endurance athletes. Nothing really new in what he says to anyone that's been paying attention these last 10-15 years. Interesting though.
J2R
Dec 2019
9:54am, 19 Dec 2019
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J2R
Getting an error with that video, Nellers.
Dec 2019
9:56am, 19 Dec 2019
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Nellers
https://youtu.be/MALsI0mJ09I


Is that better mate?
Dec 2019
10:27am, 19 Dec 2019
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Shortcut Cam
Thanks for posting Nellers. My coach has me doing 2 intense sessions per week (intervalsand Hill session) and one yellow (parkrun, orienteering, tempo) so I’m probably in line with the 80/10/10. Main emphasis with my coach is to train towards the high end of the aerobic window. I’ve been able to achieve this this last week but that’s not’s always the case and nor do I want to. Nevertheless this regimen that I’ve been on for 10 weeks has seen my easy/recovery pace drop by 1min/mi. Running to heart rate on my aerobic and long runs has transformed me.

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Maintained by Elderberry
Everything you need to know about training with a heart rate monitor. Remember the motto "I can maintain a fast pace over the race distance because I am an Endurance God". Mind the trap door....

Gobi lurks here, but for his advice you must first speak his name. Ask and you shall receive.

A quote:

"The area between the top of the aerobic threshold and anaerobic threshold is somewhat of a no mans land of fitness. It is a mix of aerobic and anaerobic states. For the amount of effort the athlete puts forth, not a whole lot of fitness is produced. It does not train the aerobic or anaerobic energy system to a high degree. This area does have its place in training; it is just not in base season. Unfortunately this area is where I find a lot of athletes spending the majority of their seasons, which retards aerobic development. The athletes heart rate shoots up to this zone with little power or speed being produced when it gets there." Matt Russ, US International Coach

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