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Sep 2017
2:27pm, 23 Sep 2017
850 posts
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Flatlander
J2R, your experience is what professional sport clubs find with their players when they monitor their physical readings during training or games - they can tell when a player is about to be ill due to a change in their readings, particularly the HR. I've personally observed that as well.
Conversely, HR can be used to tell when a person has fully recovered (provided not too much fitness has been lost during any lay off).
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Sep 2017
8:32pm, 23 Sep 2017
17,215 posts
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flanker
You're better looking at heart rate variation, rather than absolute heart rate, to monitor recovery. It's how all the modern watches predict recovery time, and from tracking mine for the last 8 months or so I think it provides a good guide.
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Sep 2017
1:12am, 24 Sep 2017
30,753 posts
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GlennR
Agreed flanker.
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Sep 2017
11:00am, 24 Sep 2017
707 posts
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J2R
Heart rate pretty well back to normal now, and no viral symptoms for the last couple of days. I'm sure HRV would be a better way of determining recovery, but I haven't been taking readings for a while so don't have a baseline to work from.
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Sep 2017
12:06pm, 26 Sep 2017
1,952 posts
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steve45
I don't really like the electronically calculated recovery time idea flanker..I'm sure it works well for many but not all. I know really what's going on when I start a run and see how quickly my HR settles or when it begins to elevate. Of course there is variation according to the routes I take..or the terrain and which I factor in. My heart rate actually doesn't vary much at all---when I've been doing proper routines. Looking ok again this week.
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Sep 2017
1:31am, 27 Sep 2017
17,233 posts
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flanker
it's not about the actual variation of heart rate in that manner - it's a measure of how the heart beats, not the speed of the heart beat. The more the body is stressed, the more metronomic the heart beat is, but when it's recovered there's more randomness within the beats. Therefore I, and the science, believe it is a very good measure of the need for recovery for everyone, as it is looking at the underlying cardiovascular system and stress on the body.
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Sep 2017
8:30am, 27 Sep 2017
30,805 posts
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GlennR
Quite right flanker.
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Sep 2017
2:41pm, 27 Sep 2017
8,131 posts
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Garfield
I've recently found it a good measure to let me know when I've recovered properly from illness. When I was sick, my resting HR was 10 higher than when I'm healthy...and stayed that way until I was well again.
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Sep 2017
4:01pm, 27 Sep 2017
714 posts
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J2R
As my recovery from my indeterminate viral lurgy (IVL) turned out to be temporary, I've started taking HRV readings again. It'll be interesting to see what they reveal over time. Currently they're in the poorish but not dire range (compared with my baseline from last year), with today's reading being a few points higher than yesterday's. Still 10-15 points short of what I was seeing when fully well and not over-trained last year.
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Sep 2017
9:44am, 28 Sep 2017
1,959 posts
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steve45
Back to school for me!
So..how can I measure that variation flanker? How long following a run would I measure my HR for?......
On a very basic level I've re checked my training notes and for several months I've been very lazy in not putting in regular faster paced/hard efforts. I think I've been vaguely wondering about just how far I should stress my heart now that I'm at the same age my Dad died at (68)....even though I've been running for forty years....
any thoughts guys?
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