Heart rate

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Siouxsie Aug 2009 8:54pm, 10 Aug 2009 16,665 posts	0 Siouxsie Deeks, is the HR alert just an audible noise or vibration too ? I wear an ipod when training and wonder if I'd hear them ?
Aug 2009 9:01pm, 10 Aug 2009 7,717 posts	0 Siouxsie, Thanks for sharing.
Deeks Aug 2009 9:47pm, 10 Aug 2009 247 posts	0 Deeks SIouxsie, it just an audible noise from my FR305, barely audible so sometimes I miss it another reason I set my alerts 5 bpm below 70% whr. I find after a while it doesn't go off very often as you get used to running at the right effort rating, but i still reminding now and then so for me it make sense to keep it switched on.
victor2112 Aug 2009 10:01pm, 10 Aug 2009 4 posts	0 victor2112 Thanks for the feedback. I'll lower my alert on my HRM and try not to go over. Very difficult, though, as the HR spikes so much with any exertion!
Deeks Aug 2009 10:51pm, 10 Aug 2009 248 posts	0 Deeks I found the only way for me was to decrease stride length on hills whilst maintaining cadence, hope this helps.
Meglet Aug 2009 10:53pm, 10 Aug 2009 1,449 posts	0 Meglet i agree Deeks, shorter strides and higher cadence. HR training has certainly taught me to run up hills more efficiently.
thechunkygentleman Aug 2009 8:52am, 11 Aug 2009 199 posts	0 thechunkygentleman I work to 70% average per mile. I do try and keep the whole run under 70% but it is terribly easy to lose concentration and slip over. I dont think that is a huge issue in itself so long as you arent doing long stints at higher HR
SPR™ Aug 2009 9:50am, 11 Aug 2009 6,502 posts	0 SPR™ Does Hadd use a 70% rule? Haven't read Hadd for a while but I thought it eventually allowed running at higher than 70% as you would be conditioned to run aerobically efficiently (no drift) at this higher HR.
paul the builder Aug 2009 11:12am, 11 Aug 2009 1,207 posts	0 paul the builder Essentially Hadd says that a combination of easy aerobic running (i.e. < 70% WHR, although his HR stipulations are a little less calculated than that) and just-below-Lactate-Threshold running is all you need to make the big strides forward in conditioning. The LT stuff starts at a much lower HR than I think most people would expect though (depending on your present conditioning, of course). counterpartcoaching.com But don't forget Hadd is dealing with the medium to high-mileage athletes in the main. So I think as folk get in to this and build base miles, the emphasis should be on the easy aerobic stuff.
SPR™ Aug 2009 11:23am, 11 Aug 2009 6,505 posts	0 SPR™ PtB, thought it was something like that (just below LT being the fastest you run staying aerobic). I have the PDF, just haven't looked at it in a while. I agree with what you said in your second paragraph.

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"The area between the top of the aerobic threshold and anaerobic threshold is somewhat of a no mans land of fitness. It is a mix of aerobic and anaerobic states. For the amount of effort the athlete puts forth, not a whole lot of fitness is produced. It does not train the aerobic or anaerobic energy system to a high degree. This area does have its place in training; it is just not in base season. Unfortunately this area is where I find a lot of athletes spending the majority of their seasons, which retards aerobic development. The athletes heart rate shoots up to this zone with little power or speed being produced when it gets there." Matt Russ, US International Coach

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