Oct 2009
8:30pm, 10 Oct 2009
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Joe Hawk
Busy thread
I read the Hadd Training document awhile back and alot of the ideas clicked with me. I agree with Boab on running itself being a good way of avoiding injuries though trying dislike the idea of forcing a change of technique unneccessarily. In my opinion the body is lazy and will if possible always take the easiest way of doing something so if you train it regulary with varied running it will naturally become more efficient. Is the end point the same as where POSE will get you I don't know , but I believe POSE is taking the end point and working backwards which is not always the right thing to do.
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Oct 2009
8:33pm, 10 Oct 2009
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Joe Hawk
Boab - sub LT for 90mins ??? my understanding is Lactate Theshold is between 10k and 10mile (at the most half) pace.
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Oct 2009
8:36pm, 10 Oct 2009
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Boab
It's not at lactate threshold Joe, it's sub LT, just under it. The idea being (like happy panda put so well) that training at this intensity pushes the lactate threshold up.
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Oct 2009
8:37pm, 10 Oct 2009
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Your LT is what ever the hell it is, everyones is different. You can't say "well it's between this and this pace" in such generic terms, if you'd read the Hadd training piece you'd know that, a lot of people's paces don't correlate at all and lack of correct training in what Hadd etc push is what causes that.
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Oct 2009
8:39pm, 10 Oct 2009
10 posts
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and what teh Mighty Boab said
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Oct 2009
8:40pm, 10 Oct 2009
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Boab
Also agree with Panda regarding thrashing out intervals. When I last did them I could knock out 6 x 5:10 miles on the track with a couple of minutes rest, but couldn't break 35 minutes for 10K......running them to fast? You bet I was.
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Oct 2009
8:43pm, 10 Oct 2009
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Boab
Aye, my own lactate threshold was tested at around 6:10 - 6:15 pace back in Feb this year. I am well aware that these tests are subjective....
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Oct 2009
8:56pm, 10 Oct 2009
1,683 posts
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Joe Hawk
Sorry was reading it wrong . When you said sub LT I was thinking pace not speed. ie 5:30 pace not 6:00
HP - Agreed a person with slanted training (or genetic preference) can run a 10K at a lot better relative pace than their mara or the other way round, but in either case their lactate theshold remains at a pace that they can hold for a max of an hour which in the vast majority is between 10K and 10M.
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Oct 2009
8:59pm, 10 Oct 2009
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SPR™
Most people seem to think intervals mean running as fast as you can...
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Oct 2009
9:00pm, 10 Oct 2009
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Boab
Very true SPR. Or running them at a pace they want to achieve over the distance being trained for, rather than the pace they can actually run the distance at.
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