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Nov 2016
5:32pm, 19 Nov 2016
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GimmeMedals
The 8 week BSD doesn't recommend going into ketosis.
Nov 2016
5:37pm, 19 Nov 2016
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Cuddy
Well I've been to the Scandinavian Christmas fair. Not helpful for any sort of healthy eating. *digs salty liquorice out of teeth* Started reading the BSD book but obviously not started to follow any of it yet.

I have also managed to whack myself with a bow string today and my arm is purple despite protective gear. But absolutely love archery, so happy I decided to start the course :-)
Nov 2016
6:21pm, 19 Nov 2016
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GimmeMedals
Archery is a great activity. I've only done it a couple of times but really enjoyed it.
Mr GM wanted Chinese takeaway for tea after we'd been swimming. I ordered it and didn't tell him I wasn't having any or he'd have not bothered and he's been craving spare ribs all week. I made BSD carbonara when we got home. Really tasty and decadently creamy. Much tastier than the alternative would have been!
Nov 2016
7:55am, 20 Nov 2016
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2.5lb off this week, which is pleasing. I'm so glad I didn't bother with the takeaway last night :)
Nov 2016
5:08pm, 20 Nov 2016
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Cuddy
Now I know how the BSD works. The book scares the hell out of you. Next time I look at a bar of chocolate, I think I'll start shaking with fear.
Nov 2016
6:23pm, 20 Nov 2016
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RevBarbaraG
How do you get on with sugar?

In the past I have always tried the moderation approach, e.g. I can have one proper pudding each week plus a sugar-sweetened yogurt each day. Now, because of low-carving I have also gone virtually sugar-free. When I say virtually, I mean I'll have a couple of grams in two squares of very dark chocolate, once or twice a week - and that is all. And - as if by magic - cakes and sweets have lost their appeal.
Nov 2016
8:21pm, 20 Nov 2016
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Over the first 4 weeks I started to find sweet things were too sweet. I daren't try my favourite Dairy Milk in case I now find it inedible. I have half a spoon of sugar in my cuppa tea, down from two, and only have a little in porridge (which I only eat if I'm doing 2 hours or more exercise). The couple of cakes I tried were both too sweet, but a fruit scone is still a delight!
Nov 2016
10:54am, 21 Nov 2016
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Helegant
Ok... cat among pigeons here I suspect... because I see references here to various diets/books/ideas that I won't be reading but am mildly curious about and each probably has something useful tucked away.

We're all different - thankfully, and some things that help one person won't help another.

I have two confession to make - the second will come later in the week... ;-)

I dislike 'slimming clubs' and 'diets' because I passionately dislike applying moral judgements to food, and the terminology used 'bad/syns' etc. is enough to trigger my 'rebellious child' response. Reading diet books (yes I have read quite a few of them over the years!) wastes time - too much waffle, pseudo-science and 'self-help'ishness to wade through to find the useful nuggets.

If they tell me to expect headaches (from eating decent food???), or that my liver needs de-toxifying then my ears switch off and my brain goes into white noise ;-)

So I try to be conscious, not just to seek to moderate my food intake to that which helps and not hinders me but also to deal with the "if you tell me I mustn't eat it I'll start to crave it" rebound.

Diets that exclude certain food groups in favour of others that might be harmful when they are out of balance with other foods test my credulity. e.g. In 2012 a man I knew read a book that said carbs were 'bad', went on a no-carb, high-fat diet and despite me imploring him to check with his GP, he kept telling me that although he wasn't a caveman he thought he should eat like one and the GP wouldn't understand. He died of a heart attack less than six weeks into his diet, and he wasn't even overweight.

For my own body... I prefer fresh food, tend to avoid highly processed food, artificial sweeteners or food labelled as low-fat, and balancing GI is positively helpful. I do like 'proper' cake :-) My particular delusion is that I think I am overweight because I eat too much, rather than the type of food I eat.

So, given that we are all different, what works for you?
What are the core eating patterns that you use for weight-loss?
How does that differ from the patterns you use to maintain weight in the long term?
Nov 2016
12:55pm, 21 Nov 2016
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RevBarbaraG
Ooh, I do like me a good pussy cat!!

I share your dislike of slimming clubs and anything which smacks of moral judgement around what we do or don't eat. Also of diets.... I've spent the past twenty years trying to change my eating habits, rather than "going on a diet" for a limited period of time. I've been trying to find an approach to eating which is sustainable for life and compatible with better health. And for me - with an all time high of 22 stone - that has to result in a lower weight.

Having said all that, I've also come to believe that the calories in-calories out theory is fundamentally flawed. Not that you don't need a caloric deficit to lose weight, because you do. The question is, how do you achieve and maintain it? There are confounding factors - calories out is not constant - it changes in response to many factors, including what and how much you eat.

Having finally, almost accidentally, stopped eating sugar, I am amazed by how little appeals to me now. It *is* addictive - at least, it is for me. A little bit leads to a bit more, and a bit more.... well, you have all probably been there. I've always known that whole grains were better than refined ones... but those refined ones are just sooooo moreish - especially when they come combined with fat and sugar, e.g. as cake.

If I were an alcoholic, no-one would bat an eyelid if I said I had given up alcohol. (I'm not and I haven't). But somehow giving up sugar and grains is unacceptable. I'm not asking you to do it. I'm saying that I have done it.

I don't believe carbs are bad. I do believe that, unlike fats and proteins, they are not essential to life and health. And given that my body does not metabolise them well, and that I have an addictive response to sugar and refined carbs, I'm better avoiding them. Those carbs I do consume are the most nutrient-dense form possible. That way I'll get all the vitamins, minerals and other micro stuff I need in abundance, while keeping my blood glucose under control and my weight heading south.

I also have a strong preference for whole over processed foods, avoiding artificial sweeteners. I just believe that - for me - avoiding certain types of food makes it possible to eat the right amount of food, without effort to do so. I don't count anything, really.
Nov 2016
1:39pm, 21 Nov 2016
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Helegant
Thanks RevBG for your considered response, and I wonder whether the GI balance that I seek is similar to the discoveries you've made about the way your body processes carbs?

I've just found this, which also appeals to my 'sensible' head.
fitnaturally.co.uk

And thanks to someone posting about blood sugar I've found a recipe very similar to one of the best meals Mr and I had in Rome. We walked into a cafe on a chilly, wet November day, shivering and damp. Mr had spent some of the previous afternoon teaching him a magic trick, and he greeted us like old friends, noticed we were cold, and asked if we would like to share the 'Roman soup' that he was cooking for his family, rather than the pizzas etc on the menu. It was very similar to this, https://thebloodsugardiet.com/recipes/itanial-bean-casserole/.

I recommend it anyone who is vegetarian, hungry and cold!

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