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7 Jan
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Derby Tup
One of life's great mysteries. Go with the ranger is what I'd do
7 Jan
11:16am, 7 Jan 2024
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TheScribbler
Good enough for me :-) I also spotted a sparrow hawk in the same area. Just need to process my photos
J2R
7 Jan
11:48am, 7 Jan 2024
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J2R
My inclination would be marsh tit, because of slight sheen on the black crown. I've been known to talk bollocks, though.
7 Jan
11:49am, 7 Jan 2024
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Nord SledRunner
Siri photos says marsh tit.
7 Jan
12:20pm, 7 Jan 2024
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jacdaw
Neat moustache suggests Marsh Tit?
7 Jan
3:11pm, 7 Jan 2024
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paulcook
From the RSPB website re: marsh tits:

In the UK, its identification is made tricky by the very similar appearance of native Willow Tits. They're so hard to identify that ornithologists (scientists who study birds) didn't realise there were two species until 1897!

Google images and I'd have said they were twins!
7 Jan
3:55pm, 7 Jan 2024
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KinkyS
Willow tits have declined by a staggering amount in the last 30 years (around 95% off the top of my head, the most threatened native British bird :-( ) so unless you are in a known willow tit hotspot, it's more likely than not to be a marshy.
7 Jan
5:50pm, 7 Jan 2024
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flyingfinn
Pale cutting edge on bill also suggests Marsh Tit.

I live in a Willow Tit hot spot (pair on the feeders daily) and until the last year it the advice locally was always assume it's a Willow and then at least a pair maybe more Marsh appeared a mile or so from home and it got way harder to be sure.
7 Jan
6:47pm, 7 Jan 2024
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flanker
Also reasonably clearly defined dark bib (willow is less clear-cut), and minimal white over the ear coverts (white tends to be more defined around to the nape on Willow, rather than fading into buff) suggest Marsh.

But there are degrees of variation in all these and none are definitive alone. It comes down to the combination of all the ones mentioned. Plus factor in habitat too, but as ff highlights that also has overlaps.

Best bet is to take its feeder away and hope it shouts at you! :)
7 Jan
6:54pm, 7 Jan 2024
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Hanneke
:)

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