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Amadeus Jun 2016 9:57am, 24 Jun 2016 23 posts	Quote Pin Amadeus Diogenes, perhaps the problem is this is not a single issue. There are reasons to stay in the EU and reasons to leave it (more of one or the other depending on your points of view). But yes I agree it is an imperfect method to sort such a complex issue out. I was very uncomfortable with some of the rhetoric used by Farage in campaigning and it has drawn debate away from many of the points that needed debating rationally. But it is ironic that many who voted remain are using the sort of language we would expect from Farage himself.
Chrisull Jun 2016 9:59am, 24 Jun 2016 9,199 posts	Quote Pin Chrisull Two articles for you to peruse: 1) Scroll to point 4 - jackofkent.com 2) Just read first line of this: news.bbc.co.uk Food for thought?
Amadeus Jun 2016 9:59am, 24 Jun 2016 24 posts	Quote Pin Amadeus And yes there has been some pretty squalid and unconstructive comment from the leavers too.
Ultracat Jun 2016 10:04am, 24 Jun 2016 11,450 posts	Quote Pin Ultracat So those folks who voted leave, can you post your reasons based on the facts? Personally I never came accross a reason or fact for voting to leave.
Scott S Jun 2016 10:07am, 24 Jun 2016 924 posts	Quote Pin Scott S The banks / financial markets really don't help things. First sign of anything, they panic and the £ drops etc. As I've said, I'm sure we'll end up in some other agreement that is little different (or even more watertight) that what we have now. The Irish referendum above is an example of "if at first you don't succeed, try again by changing the wording"
Jovi Runner Jun 2016 10:16am, 24 Jun 2016 4,131 posts	Quote Pin Jovi Runner I think I was still half asleep when OH brought me a cuppa this morning & when he said ^we're out of Europe' my first thought was - I didn't think we had a match last night....#tryingtolightenthemood
Ceratonia Jun 2016 10:19am, 24 Jun 2016 3,730 posts	Quote Pin Ceratonia I'd say the financial markets have reacted pretty rationally. Shares of companies that earn their money overseas, in dollars, have done OK (oil, mining). Shares in companies that will do badly as a result of Brexit (housebuilders, UK banks) are down a lot. You could hardly expect anything other than a significant fall in the value of the pound. The UK voted itself a pay cut yesterday - some people gain from that, others don't. The worry would be if the cost of borrowing for the UK government goes up a result.
Derby Tup Jun 2016 10:22am, 24 Jun 2016 21,590 posts	Quote Pin Derby Tup The markets don't like uncertainty. We have plenty
Jovi Runner Jun 2016 10:23am, 24 Jun 2016 4,132 posts	Quote Pin Jovi Runner Chris Ullapool- interesting points. Given the current mood of the nation I fear that if they try for Option 4 we really could see much bigger problems as I really do fear it would lead to civil unrest if people perceive their choice had been ignored.
SFL Jun 2016 10:24am, 24 Jun 2016 673 posts	Quote Pin SFL There seems to be a lot of anger towards the leave side. The way I see it, everyone had their own reasons for leaving. If more people found reason to leave than remain, then leaving is the right thing to do. Unless of course you believe that everyone with a different opinion to yourself is an idiot. I've no doubt that there are idiots on both sides of the argument. People have their own reasons depending on their own circumstances. Hating 52% of the population isn't going to help much is it?