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On what basis? You've listed 5 names, 2 of whom open, and asked about picking a top 4. Perhaps you know why, because I don't. You've said the real true test and form of the game is Test Cricket, but listed stats across all formats, for some reason. Nonsense post all round, really.
The irony of holding Boycott up as an exemplar, to demonstrate Pietersen's selfishness and lack of 'team ethic' is hopefully not lost on you.
Not really, he won three times more games for his TEAM than KP did - stat fact.
Think you'll find that Cricinfo, Cricket Archive and Wisden now all detail 'All forms' when compiling consolidated lists, quite like that innovation - I have actually taken that further and include those non-Cat A games against decent oppostion - Mac's Top Trumps will be out at the end of the year!
It would have been simple to filter the list just to your "true test" of Test Cricket, if you'd wanted.
I'm intrigued how you work out how many games someone "won for their team". Boycott remained not out 3 times more than KP in tests. But I'm sure we can all see that's hardly a measure of winning a game. I wonder what you've used?
There's a complex formula - comprised by the same bods that put together and run Deloittes and Duckworth/Lewis, takes into account, % of runs scored for team, opposition bowler status, length of match/batting time, match result, runs compiled whilst at wkt in partnerships, it would take someone like John Nash to understand.
I'm not sure GB was the team player you make him out to be, how many times did he run out his batting partner? Including on more than 1 occasion his skipper! Boycott was a good player, but he stayed at the crease for himself first, his team second. He was and quite possibly still is a selfish man.
Boycs was a selfish tosser. Thought he should have been captain. Scored at his own rate regardless of the game situation. Yes he scored a lot of runs - but some of those runs were scored to the detriment of the team's chances of winning - something he was dropped for, and also in one game deliberately run out so the team could get someone in who could move the scoreboard along a bit and give them a chance of forcing a win.
You must be very proud. In a child-like way, obviously.
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Seems for every person saying KP was divisive, you'll find another saying he was a great team man. For every one saying he was selfish, you'll find another saying he should have concentrated more on accumulating his own runs. Pretty much everyone agrees he was a strong personality, and some obviously could never warm to him.
The most important thing isn't his average, or his "numbers of games won for his team" - because he's clearly good enough to be considered for selection as a batter right now. The main issue is whether he can be a part of the new England, which is surely going to develop and evolve considerably now. It's perfectly possible that the right answer to that is "no" - but I would have thought it was a decision to delay until the new Head Coach was appointed.
Of course, life's too short people, 40 good years and then maggot food - have to enjoy and try not to be tooooo serious, that way you'll live till 95 instead of clogged veins and ulcers by 67! The again, when you've seen a lot of death and destruction, it makes you appreciate how trivial 'seemingly important issues' truly are.
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