Bagging Area - Points, Hills and More

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Feb 2023
7:01pm, 28 Feb 2023
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flyingfinn
How intriguing. I knew there was a difference of opinions on actual hill summits. I guess most people head to the obvious feature rather than actual peaks and when it can be so hard for the naked eye to deduce, who can blame them. But (unless I'm reading that data wrongly) those differences in distances are something I didn't expect.


Paul, I don't think there is a difference of opinion. They are just defining different things. In a number of places the WW top isn't necessarily the highest point, which is what the DoBIH defines. WW chose his tops for a variety of reasons that are often discussed in his guides. Meanwhile the trig point may be positioned somewhere different from either (I'm sure the OS had allsorts of reasons for where they put a trig from geological to line of sight to other TPs).
Feb 2023
10:53pm, 28 Feb 2023
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paulcook
"Difference of opinion" possibly the wrong choice of words, though there's also definitely some level of naivety in my comment too.

I certainly find it intriguing how different people act at a summit in different ways, some attracted to the obvious hilltop structures, some just sitting for the view, and some again (and you can see this from other lists online) are doing their best to get to the true highpoint. I'm probably guilty of all three at times. I suppose something so simple perhaps says something about our different personalities.

Of the Wainwrights themselves, of the 30 I didn't (entirely) realise until last week that I'd done I think they just happened to be peaks that I'd run or walked somewhere to the near vicinity of the top.
um
Mar 2023
3:02pm, 1 Mar 2023
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um
Land Ahoy! A new British Island. I hope Fetch is keeping an eye on these developments ;-)
thetimes.co.uk

Defining the 'highest point' may be tricky though.
Mar 2023
3:04pm, 1 Mar 2023
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fetcheveryone
Waiting for Rees-Mogg to claim it as a Brexit benefit.
Mar 2023
3:26pm, 1 Mar 2023
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McGoohan
Arr, that be McGoohan Island. Back ye landlubbers. Avast ye, I say.
Mar 2023
3:27pm, 1 Mar 2023
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McGoohan
(It's to be twinned with Windsor Racecourse Island)
Mar 2023
3:50pm, 1 Mar 2023
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paulcook
I noticed a few weeks ago Spurn Island (not sure it's a real island, or just a spit - so probably similar to the above case) has not only a high point, but a British hill top. About 10m high!
Mar 2023
4:06pm, 1 Mar 2023
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Windsor Wool
(It's to be twinned with Windsor Racecourse Island)


is this why I saw Sunak in Windsor on Monday evening or were they doing something else? I wonder.
Mar 2023
4:39pm, 1 Mar 2023
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K5 Gus
Fetch - I think an error in the description of Dodds.

You've got "British and Irish hills of any height with a drop of at least 150 metres on all sides" which confused me greatly when I looked at what my closest is, it's barely a pimple on a rising slope that goes a lot higher.
However, hill-bagging.co.uk says "A Dodd is a hill between 500m and 599m high with a drop of at least 30 metres all round"

I'm now happy that my local pimple has just about 30m drop all round :-)
Mar 2023
4:50pm, 1 Mar 2023
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fetcheveryone
Updated ta.

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Given the auto bagging recognition developents, first Wainwrights and now all sorts, opening up a thread for general discussion and whatever comes next.
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Fetch's blog and background : fetcheveryone.com/blog/3/2023/2/463428
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