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Jan 2019
11:33am, 27 Jan 2019
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D2
Great description of your day Maz, too clever by half these dogs! Well done to him :) We have done a couple of basic scent work classes which Indi loved but he got very disruptive when it was someone else's turn and he didn't think they were doing it properly or fast enough.... we were asked to leave!

It hard/impossible to keep one step ahead of their need for stimulation and learning I'm finding! :)
Jan 2019
1:24pm, 27 Jan 2019
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LazyDaisy
Hmm, scentwork...I reckon Flossie could be good at that. Am I right in thinking they just have to *find* whatever it is, and not actually retrieve it? Because despite her breed name, retrieving is not one of her strengths :-)

Your descriptions of Rory's behaviour do make me laugh, Maz :-)
Jan 2019
1:36pm, 27 Jan 2019
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Mazlin
He is so ridiculous sometimes, all you can do is laugh at him. :-)

Yes, just find and then indicate in some way to you that they’ve found it. Lots of pawing is discouraged (cos it can damage cars), and they’re not supposed to eat it, but otherwise they can do anything.
Jan 2019
9:23pm, 27 Jan 2019
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SarahWoo
At the risk of boring you with Poppy-the-puppy updates, I think we had a breakthrough on Friday when we walked her with George.

Relying on my assessment of George’s body language and knowing that he was much more grumpy than usual with muzzle on than without, I decided not to put it on when we went for a walk with Poppy. We went across the fields and to start with, Poppy was on the lead and George was off his.
He was having a great time chasing tennis balls and totally ignoring Poppy. After a while, I put him back on the lead and E let Poppy off hers. The first thing she did was come charging over to George to jump all over him. He told her off which made her jump and run behind her Mum to hide - briefly! After that, she was much more wary of him. A few minutes later, she tried again and got told off again.
We ended up with both of them off leads - George completely ignoring Poppy and Poppy trying to encourage him to play from a distance!
I’ll keep a close eye on him when we walk with Poppy in future but I don’t think we’ll have a problem. George isn’t out to attack her, he’s telling her to sod off and stop being so annoying.
The next hurdle will be how he copes with her coming to visit. Might have to use the muzzle again at first.
Jan 2019
9:46pm, 27 Jan 2019
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Sharkie
The Baroness and I discussed something like this when we met with our dogs (relatively) recently. We both believe it's fine for a dog to 'tell' another dog to go away or whatever.

It's NOT attacking them! It's just saying 'Please don't!' as emphatically as they can.

Wanda 'told' Jess not to come so close and Jess understood. She (Jess) didn't think Wanda was attacking her.

Correct me if I'm wrong Baroness!
Jan 2019
9:52pm, 27 Jan 2019
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SarahWoo
Yes, there’s certainly a difference, isn’t there?

Poppy will have learned that she needs to treat other dogs with respect too.

It must be hard for a bundle of such gorgeousness to understand that not every person or dog thinks she’s wonderful :)
Jan 2019
10:38pm, 27 Jan 2019
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BaronessBL
Agree with Sharkie's recollection of events between Jess and Wanda. Interestingly we went to a park with Wanda that we don't visit very often - it's in a town so lots of dog walkers and we had Wanda off the lead. We encountered a group of owners with about 5 or 6 dogs between them. All the dogs were playing and interacting fine and Wanda clearly would have liked to do so too. However, whether it was her hip hurting or just having to join in a pack as a newcomer and not as 'top dog' Wanda appeared to assess the situation and then came away from the group and stood with us. I don't think she was frightened as such, just making a decision that these dogs were not who she wanted to play with - a similar thing with Jess too I think - Wanda was quite happy that the dogs were in the vicinity of her but she wasn't going to get involved. She did snap a one, a beagle, that came a bit close, but it was only in a 'I don't want to play with you' way. I think that's exactly what dogs do and it's very sad that some people immediately think 'Look at that nasty Staffie trying to attack my lovely dog' (although I don't think the other owners in this case thought that of Wanda).
Jan 2019
2:28am, 28 Jan 2019
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Helegant
I agree with that too. Jet is choosy now about which dogs he wants to play with. Most of the time on walks as we meet unknown dogs they communicate that at a distance by responding or not to the invitations. Every once in a while one of the dogs at agility will be in a not-playing mood and it only takes one quick snarl to get the message across to everyone.
Jan 2019
7:08am, 28 Jan 2019
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halfpint
I agree with everyone. We refer to it as a warning shot. Ernie gives Remus (the new pup on the block) a little warning when he goes too far but they play well together. Ernie’s behaviour towards a few dogs in the village is something totally different and really quite aggressive. Hence the behaviourist. If only the JRT owner had been so insightful we may not be experiencing these issues.
Jan 2019
8:02am, 28 Jan 2019
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LazyDaisy
Flossie sounds quite fierce when she tells Lottie off, but it is very much a 'Stop it! I don't want to play' message rather than aggression to be carried through. Doubtless by the time my sister comes back in six weeks' time the message will have got through ;-)

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