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Aug 2017
10:42pm, 22 Aug 2017
5,195 posts
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Helegant
It's frustratig isn't it?
I like the article about cues vs commands.
We did 'road stop' as part of Gold KC, and it worked brilliantly in training mode "ooh, isn't he good...". Sometimes it even works in the agility ring. Mostly I have to wait until Jet's ears are working again before I try it, and never when he is tracking fish treats.
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Aug 2017
10:43pm, 22 Aug 2017
6,758 posts
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BaronessBL
Will he settle in a crate?
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Aug 2017
10:44pm, 22 Aug 2017
10,032 posts
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D2
You have my sympathy Maz, I used to put Indi in his crate when I just couldn't stand it any longer.... I must say I'm not looking forward to long winter evenings
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Aug 2017
11:03pm, 22 Aug 2017
6,759 posts
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BaronessBL
We also did the Emergency Stop command and I think we did a Game Over type command for Silver KCGS where, as I recall, I think we had to play with the dog with a toy that wasn't just a ball to retrieve so a tugger or something similar and then had to stop play (Game Over) and then play again. I use 'Wait' for the emergency stop but in a more abrupt way - it's a more drawn out word when I'm asking her to wait before eating for example. We still practice the emergency stop when out on walks pretty much any time she is off the lead I will ask for it at some point and we still do it in class too (although she is bored with it in class but fine when it is somewhere interesting.)
It's been interesting to observe Wanda back in her old advanced obedience class after our three months at the canine offenders institute  She loves learning new things so although the 'new' stuff we are learning will never be 'useful' like all the KCGC stuff mainly is, Wanda tries so hard to do whatever new thing she is being asked for. It's mainly stuff that would be considered I suppose the basics of heelwork to music or tricks which is not something I'd ever be interested in doing but Wanda absolutely loves learning a new thing. Today we were learning 'pivot' and until she got it she was offering everything she could think of from target, wipe paws, play bow and so on hoping that at some point she'd do what it was I was asking! So sweet 
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Aug 2017
11:06pm, 22 Aug 2017
3,480 posts
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Mazlin
We haven't tried a crate yet - I've bought one but I need to pick it up. I do feel like he needs a 'place' - he doesn't have a bed because he ripped apart two, then two blankets, and then I needed a break from picking bits of shredded fabric off the floor.
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Aug 2017
11:31pm, 22 Aug 2017
6,760 posts
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BaronessBL
Yes dogs do like to have their own space, even if they think that space is only for shredding! I started watching 10 puppies the other day I hope Rory won't be like the rescue dog the retired couple took on when you introduce him to his crate Good luck!
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Aug 2017
6:53am, 23 Aug 2017
23,813 posts
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halfpint
Does a training session tire Rory out? Sometimes if Ernie is being particularly demanding we will do some training. He gets some attention and uses his brain which tires him out a bit. Or a snuffle mat or another challenge.
Once we got a bit of an evening routine Ernie seemed to settle better but his meaningful stares and annoying whine were easier to ignore than destructive behaviour.
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Aug 2017
7:37am, 23 Aug 2017
3,481 posts
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Mazlin
Not so's you'd notice, HP Last night we went through training, scentwork training (I'm doing that wrong somehow; he really doesn't get that he's looking for the scent, not the little bit of cloth it's on), snufflemat, chew, antler, time out in the kitchen, time out for *me* in the kitchen, and me shouting at him (not proud of that one, but he jumped up and bit my wrist and it really f**king hurt).
This morning we have been for a walk, done some heelwork in the garden, had breakfast, played 'watch me', played 'stay' and 'come' and now he's bloody barking at the underside of the sofa again. There's nothing under there. We are both extremely frustrated...
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Aug 2017
8:14am, 23 Aug 2017
23,814 posts
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halfpint
The only other answer I can come up with is wine. Lots of it.
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Aug 2017
9:03am, 23 Aug 2017
5,196 posts
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Helegant
Have you done any training on 'settle'? Basically, reward the behaviour you want, even if it only lasts for a few seconds?
If he has a good 'wait' then we were instructed to wait for the sigh when they give up hoping for something exciting to happen, and then to reward that mind state.
In the early days our trainer actually stood on Jet's lead while he was in the down position and made sure he couldn't move away to let him know what was required. Writing this has reminded me that we put Jet on his lead indoors on occasions just so we could establish some boundaries e.g. not jumping on the furniture unless invited.
If that doesn;t work then I recommend wine too
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