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Dec 2012
9:01pm, 30 Dec 2012
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Gobi
Pretty much yes and sometimes 2 a week
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Dec 2012
10:15pm, 30 Dec 2012
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DeeGee
Wow.
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Dec 2012
10:41pm, 30 Dec 2012
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Gobi
I was ultra training so felt the need to do more. Marathons were a side effect of 100km work really. People I coach do spend a lot of time running between 18-22 miles
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Dec 2012
10:51pm, 30 Dec 2012
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Nellers
My plan for Brighton has alternate weeks having a 22, 5 x 20 and 2 x 18 between now and the race. The weeks between them have 12-14 mile runs, and I'm not sure it's going to be enough.
Generally, for me, I'd still class anything over 10 as long, although the line is getting a bit blurred these days. I do regular mid-week 8s and 9s which go down as "Medium-Long" so the 10s probably won't be "Long" for much longer.
Pace: I'm doing about 8:50-9:20/miles while aiming for a 3.45 marathon. I've already debated the fact that this is either too fast in training or too slow a target (and by HR the training is right) but my confidence in the race itself is pretty shaky (it's only my second marathon) and so I'm being conservative for now.
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Dec 2012
10:53pm, 30 Dec 2012
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Gobi
So train slower and make sure that 3.45 is ticked off and more by being as aerobically fit as possible
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Dec 2012
10:57pm, 30 Dec 2012
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Nellers
Gobi, by HR I'm doing these runs at sub-70% WHR, or at least I've done the 5 X 16 milers so far at that effort level.
I've been thinking that I stick to the HR and let the pace take care of itself. Would you advise differently?
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Dec 2012
10:58pm, 30 Dec 2012
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Nellers
Oh, and I've found that this time round (as opposed to the build-up to the 2011 spring marathon) I'm managing 16 miles comfortably on just water whereas previously I'd have been necking iso drinks and jelly babies. Is this a sign that I'm getting fitter and more efficient and therefore a good thing or an opportunity to practice fuelling strategy that I've squandered?
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Dec 2012
11:02pm, 30 Dec 2012
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DeeGee
It may just be a sign that you're more confident in your ability to cover the distance and don't feel the need to fall back on the "crutch" of gels. Might still be worth using them in the race, though, so you really do need to take them out occasionally and practice on the run.
That said, I ran one of my few sub 3:40 marathons on orange squash alone. Not even breakfast.
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Dec 2012
11:06pm, 30 Dec 2012
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Nellers
I plan to use the gels on race day and I expect to need them (or feel like I need them) when I get out to 20 mile runs in training too.
Last time the wheels started working loose at about 16. Hopefully the increased endurance I've built by putting the miles in this year will see me through that and to the finish with wheels still attached.
Sorry, DeeGee. I seem to have kidnapped your thread.
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Dec 2012
11:09pm, 30 Dec 2012
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DeeGee
Help yourself Nellers. The more the merrier. As I suggested on page 1, there's a lot of guesswork goes on with the LSR, and I want to find out what works for people.
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Myth of the 20-mile long run
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