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Tour de France 2013

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eL Bee! Sep 2013 9:42am, 17 Sep 2013 19,038 posts	0 eL Bee! The Cumbrian stage was excellent
rf_fozzy Sep 2013 9:44am, 17 Sep 2013 5,411 posts	0 rf_fozzy Yes, the SE does contain a lot of people. A lot of them (but certainly not all) are pretty awful people as well. A lot (but again not all) of them work in the City and work as hard to make as much money for themselves and screw everyone else as much as possible. Another lot of them work in Whitehall and work as hard as possible to screw the rest of us. Therefore these people don't count When we build the wall, we'll have some kind of amnesty to let the nice people out. Independence for Yorkshire and the North (and everywhere outside the SE who wants to join us) I say!!
rf_fozzy Sep 2013 9:47am, 17 Sep 2013 5,412 posts	0 rf_fozzy PtB - but the inference is that it is a tour of Great Britain - since it uses the Union Flag as part of it's logo. If it's a tour of Great Britain, this includes IOM and Channel Islands, doesn't it?. Can't remember if it includes NI - is that the UK? There is a difference I know.
rf_fozzy Sep 2013 9:48am, 17 Sep 2013 5,413 posts	0 rf_fozzy And anyway, I suspect you're being a PITA for the sake of being a PITA, so I am going to withdraw from the argument at this point. See I can learn what starts to trigger my depression. It just takes time and a lot of hammering it into my head.
Velociraptor Sep 2013 9:51am, 17 Sep 2013 27,251 posts	0 Velociraptor If Chain Reaction Cycles is sponsoring the event, I'd be surprised if NI was excluded even if it isn't technically part of "Great Britain". It's going to be impossible to keep everybody happy every year with a race of eight stages. Maybe a completely different range of places will be chosen next year - certainly the organiser was saying on t'wireless this morning that Cumbria might have to "wait its turn" before getting another bite at the ToB. Which is only fair, with there being plenty of good route possibilities in adjacent counties, certainly scope for two stages in Scotland, good hard hilly riding in Devon and Cornwall, and lots and lots of cycling fans in the heavily populated Greater London area.
The Teaboy Sep 2013 9:53am, 17 Sep 2013 9,962 posts	0 The Teaboy Nothing in neglected Bedfordshire. Personally I think they should send them through Luton at rush hour. If anyone makes it out alive, they deserve the title.
paul the builder Sep 2013 9:54am, 17 Sep 2013 3,944 posts	0 paul the builder United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland - there's a clue in the name (;-)). Which still doesn't include Channel Islands and IOM - they're Crown dependencies, and not part of the UK. I think the use of the union flag is a handy convenience (since there isn't one for GB alone), and acceptable enough I'd have thought.
paul the builder Sep 2013 9:56am, 17 Sep 2013 3,945 posts	0 paul the builder Alternatively - having seen your 9:48 post - whatever.
rf_fozzy Sep 2013 10:29am, 17 Sep 2013 5,414 posts	0 rf_fozzy Sorry Paul, online arguments can be a big trigger for me I think. Need to avoid them.
The Teaboy Sep 2013 10:33am, 17 Sep 2013 9,964 posts	0 The Teaboy Fozz, accepting that not everything where people express a different point of view constitutes an argument might help too. Depending on how people drew the lines on the country, it was perfectly possible to see both points of view!