12 Apr
4:13pm, 12 Apr 2024
26,572 posts
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Bazoaxe
That sounds awful HG & XB.
Thankfully I haven't had that issue. I had one manager who outright lied in my annual review, but those notes were issued after I had moved to a new role and so I just let it go even though it hit me in the pocket. The same person stitched me up with a member of my staff the year before when they decided not to award a bonus and left it to me to explain and try to justify her unjustifiable decision.
I also had one staff member who had a poor record of attendance and I suspected was economical with the truth in her reasons. HR rolled out a new attendance process and I was forced by HR to apply it. The individual then made my life pretty tough and the staff association rep she involved was a horrible person. Incredibly neither HR or the two management people who directed me to follow the HR process gave me any support when it all kicked off and I very nearly resigned over the way that was handled.
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12 Apr
4:27pm, 12 Apr 2024
49,800 posts
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HappyG(rrr)
Pretty horrid too though Bazo. You've not been brilliantly treated at said co.
Dave W, sorry missed your post. Yes, slightly tongue in cheek. I am a coward though, that's not a joke. I'm not good with confrontations. They upset me inordinately. G
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12 Apr
4:32pm, 12 Apr 2024
3,312 posts
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B Rubble
It's very interesting how some senior managers behave when there are some difficult decisions to be made Bazo. Our owner/chairman disappeared at the times when things got really tough, COVID being the most recent one. It's a real reflection on a director as to how they support their management team when it comes to making difficult decisions.
I seem to be the one that has been involved when there are tricky procedures and dismissals involving drugs, making up test results etc. I can't think of anybody that I would want to avoid in future, but maybe like V'Rap suggests (although I doubt she is) I am THAT person.
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12 Apr
4:35pm, 12 Apr 2024
18,733 posts
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Mandymoo
I have not spoken to my boss since the day I left work. I have blocked him on all social media and avoid any chance of meeting him. If I did I am not sure what would happen, I would say my bit but knowing what he is like I would just end up feeling angrier. Therefore choosing to avoid any contact with him is the best choice.
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12 Apr
4:40pm, 12 Apr 2024
26,573 posts
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Bazoaxe
lol HG - its mostly been OK as I am approaching 38 years here
However there have been moments where its been poor and also the biggest issue is that those long serving staff get left behind financially. I could have gone contracting and earned more, but would have lost the security etc and also been outside my comfort zone.
BR - you are spot on, the absence issue for me was a classic. We were put through extensive training with role plays and other rubbish, one of which ironically I did with the guy 2 levels above me who was pretty challenging in the role play. Then when I followed his instructions for real, he buckled immediately under challenge from the staff association guy and threw me under the bus.
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12 Apr
5:02pm, 12 Apr 2024
27,696 posts
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TROSaracen
My old boss was the traditional corporate lifer. Joined from school, been there through the ‘glory days’ (when it was nationalised, a bastion of white male cliquey privilege, hell managers had their own drinks cabinet in the office which was replenished daily).
He struggled with all the things that changed from the 80s onwards although he still had plenty of rackets, fiddles etc going and of course used his position to bully/sexually harass.
He was finally forced out with a massive pension/pay off at 58, and should have looked forward to many years of prosperous relaxed retirement with zero financial worries.
At his leaving do I’ve never seen a man look more broken. We were all celebrating this cancerous presence’s departure, and he was gutted to be going - opposite way round to ‘normal’ retirement do’s.
It struck me that his job, the status etc was everything in his life. He had nothing outside of work, and probably knew as an ordinary bloke he’d either get lamped or told to fuck off for the behaviours his work position allowed him to get away with.
All his self esteem was tied into his position of power at work. It was immensely satisfying knowing once the power base was gone how miserable, empty and forlorn his wealthy retirement was going to be.
It would have been good so see how miserable and broken he was, but after a few failed attempts to keep his hand in by ‘mentoring’ his replacement he completely dropped off the radar. Given his drinking habits I suspect most of his remaining life would have been a sad old day long drunk at his local.
Enjoyed getting that off my chest 😃
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12 Apr
5:09pm, 12 Apr 2024
40,168 posts
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Ness
Sometimes it's good to vent!
I could say quite a bit about ex headteachers and senior leadership teams I worked for. It did include some lovely people. It wasn't all bad. There are some of them I'd definitely cross a street to avoid speaking to though.
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12 Apr
5:16pm, 12 Apr 2024
75,132 posts
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Lip Gloss
Luckily I got on with everyone at work except for the toxic bitch. She walked out and basically blamed me but it was all her doing.
I’m actually going on a work’s day out tomorrow so it will good to catch up again.
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12 Apr
5:24pm, 12 Apr 2024
3,313 posts
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B Rubble
A very edifying story TRO. When we get towards retirement it is much more evident that we need to have been those that worked to live, rather than the other way around. I actually enjoy my work but am happily looking forward to the days in the near future when I can spend more time with my family, especially being a new grandparent.
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12 Apr
5:30pm, 12 Apr 2024
31,705 posts
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Rosehip
Work was a stressful pita at times and I burnt out trying to keep up with unmarried non-parent youngsters straight from their PhDs, but that wasn't a toxic people thing, wouldn't have stayed as long as I did if it was - can't imagine working closely with aresholes - I don't have the tact/patience/temper. My last boss from my real job and I follow each other on strava and send Christmas "cards". There were a couple of higher managers that I am happy to have never seen again, but stay in friendly touch with many of my old colleagues. Sadly at funerals of the older ones.
School was stressful but not due to the people, education just is.
Maybe I am THAT PERSON
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