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Oct 2019
12:05pm, 28 Oct 2019
242 posts
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John Bach
I've had quite a bit of banter with Martin Green about the coverage - he'd be the first to admit he's no fell runner! Martin is probably the most improved runner in North Wales - his marathon PB when I first started running with him about 10 years ago was around 3h15 - he's improved every year since (2h30m in London this year) - I'm pretty sure his 2h41m on Saturday would have been a course record for a vet
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Oct 2019
12:07pm, 28 Oct 2019
9,289 posts
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larkim
We'll have to agree to differ about that last downhill fozzy - I'm a terrible descender in the best of conditions, and last year when I was sort of looking forward to a quicker mile to the finish I'd have taken any part of the climb up to PyP or Waunfaur in place of the descent into Llanberis - hated every single second of it, with calfs on the verge of cramping and throwing me to the ground!!
Nope, give me a climb any day of the week in preference to that hideous, hideous descent!!
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Oct 2019
12:09pm, 28 Oct 2019
34,761 posts
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Hills of Death (HOD)
You couldn't decend safely this year I pidgeon stepped on the grass.
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Oct 2019
12:28pm, 28 Oct 2019
9,209 posts
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rf_fozzy
Larks - need to do some fell racing for practise. No road race descent is then difficult...
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Oct 2019
12:51pm, 28 Oct 2019
9,290 posts
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larkim
True fozzy, but if my talents lie anywhere it's on running on nice hard tarmac!
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Oct 2019
4:25pm, 28 Oct 2019
19 posts
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fuzzyduck79
I was awarded the Vets trophy as 1st M40 (6th overall) but I have queried it and said surely Martin should have his time on there for 2019 instead (they rolled it down because he was getting a podium prize)
Two previous winning sub 2:40s veterans listed:
1988 Michael Owen 2:38:37
1995 Dewi Jones 2:39:37
Hoping to be back next year to have a much better crack - I was only 6 days recovering from running another marathon
Can confirm the downhill section was treacherous, not even sure trail shoes would have kept me upright (I went over many times)
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Oct 2019
4:48pm, 28 Oct 2019
3,282 posts
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Fizz :-)
@rf_fozzy - I made up 130 places on the descent this year 
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Oct 2019
4:51pm, 28 Oct 2019
9,297 posts
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larkim
Credit where it's due Fizz, if I'm reading your blog correctly you made up the 130 places on the up and the down (isn't the 23 mile timing mat just after you turn onto the track out of Waunfaur?)
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Oct 2019
7:05pm, 28 Oct 2019
243 posts
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John Bach
Fuzzy - they were on a slightly different course
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Oct 2019
10:25pm, 28 Oct 2019
3,283 posts
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Fizz :-)
Yes, it’s also the Waunfaur ascent (but I’m assuming fozzy’s info also included the ascent from the same timing mat). Didn’t fall over once
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