Oct 2019
10:50am, 3 Oct 2019
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larkim
Marathons might be difficult to score from - I think the raw score for a 3:00:00 marathon is about 6.8, so you'd need quite a SSS score to take that down below the 5.3 that it would score with the time bonus deduction in place.
As discussed a few pages back on this thread I think, parkruns do seem to provide a disproportionately "easy" way to get a decent score (c.f my recent 3.3 for only running 19:27 amongst a field with a big dose of CBA on the day!)
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Oct 2019
10:55am, 3 Oct 2019
8,888 posts
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larkim
18:38 would score a raw score of 6.9 so you'd need a massive SSS boost to bring it down to 4.0 - but that's what you got in June this year (the SSS adjustment was 1.7). So to get the predictor to work for you, I think you'd have to set that to be "slow" and even then I don't think it would credit you with a potential SSS score big enough. It would be more helpful if it displayed the simple formula (basic score, SSS, TP factor) and then in the drop down to predict things, allowed a numeric SSS to be applied.
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Oct 2019
10:55am, 3 Oct 2019
5,361 posts
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jda
Bazo, it probably depends on what it assumes for the course score (ie SSS).
My best two runs (net score) were marathons, followed by 4 halves, with my best parkrun way down in 10th place...but I think I'm probably a bit of an outlier
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Oct 2019
11:00am, 3 Oct 2019
8,889 posts
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larkim
At some point I'll do the spreadsheet to extrapolate the raw scores for common distances. Not too hard to do with an hour or so with the RBR website. As I've posted on the 3:15 thread, I'm always interested in comparability factors - so whether that's WAVA, IAAF points tables, RBR, Reigel etc it's interesting to see what various formats consider to be "equivalent".
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Oct 2019
11:48am, 3 Oct 2019
2,304 posts
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J2R
If I wanted to give my handicap a boost, I would run a particular local parkrun. Every time I do a decent time there my handicap improves. Yet when I ran an unexpected 5K PB early in tbe summer, it made no difference. I'll probably be doing more parkruns over the autumn and winter, as there are far fewer races. It'll be interesting to see how this affects my handicap, which has wandered around within a band of 1.6 to 1.9 for the last 3-4 years.
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Oct 2019
11:45am, 5 Oct 2019
15,336 posts
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Bazoaxe
This chat spurred me to give 18:38 a bash and see what happened. Well an 18:25 happened so hopefully enough to get my handicap under 4
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Oct 2019
12:07pm, 5 Oct 2019
8,921 posts
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larkim
Very impressive!! That really should get the handicap down! And not bad marathon training too!
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Oct 2019
2:09pm, 6 Oct 2019
15,346 posts
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Bazoaxe
Lol larkim. Runbritain must read your calculations here and I have been rounded up to 4.2 before yesterday’s parkrun is added so my improvements might not be what I hope for.
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Oct 2019
2:19pm, 6 Oct 2019
8,936 posts
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larkim
Well, it will get a basic score of 6.3 or 6.4 I think, and if the event gets a fairly “normal” SSS score of -1.3 you’ll end up with a net score after TP adjustment of 3.5-3.6. Any score lower than I think 4.1 and your total for the five counting events will be lower than 20.4, so that would (if I held the calculator) get you 4.0. So it all hangs on the SSS score, which comes from a magic black box somewhere!
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Oct 2019
8:00pm, 7 Oct 2019
15,354 posts
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Bazoaxe
The outcome is an improvement to 4.0 which is just but only just my best ever ranking
SSS 1.2 and vSSS -1.1
My HM from 2 weeks ago seems to be better rated
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