Lakeland 50 or 100 in 2021 😀😀😀

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Totriornottotri Apr 2020 8:49pm, 22 Apr 2020 248 posts	0 Totriornottotri Mark is on https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7hVAC3Hj2UbdueXyi1ZCRA John Kynaston's Facebook and Youtube (I think) tomorrow 23 Apr 20 at 1900.
Totriornottotri Apr 2020 8:50pm, 22 Apr 2020 249 posts	0 Totriornottotri No idea how to edit that! Sorry!
FenlandRunner Jul 2020 3:53pm, 27 Jul 2020 4,381 posts	0 FenlandRunner What are people's thoughts on including walking within the training plan for this event? As an incompleter, every attempt I do seem to get a bit further, I'm looking for advice to hopefully get around next year without resorting the the minibus of shame. As at best back of the pack, I'm just wondering if a trick I have been missing is to include more walking into my training. Like I said, it's only a thought and welcome and wise words of wisdom.
Dave A Jul 2020 4:41pm, 27 Jul 2020 22,497 posts	0 Dave A Yes, plenty of walking. You only need to jog the downs and the flat bits.
Derby Tup Jul 2020 5:25pm, 27 Jul 2020 44,589 posts	0 Derby Tup The one thing I think you should do is take to the fields in winter. You’ve now hills but no shortage of mud. Forget marathon pace, don’t fret about whether a session is inside or outside zone 3 just get out for some long walks and think about hours on your feet. If you want a target what about five hours per week building up to ten to start with? Do it at night too
FenlandRunner Jul 2020 5:47pm, 27 Jul 2020 4,383 posts	0 FenlandRunner Thanks Dave A and Derby Tup, we are definitely on the same wavelength. Appreciate the positive comments.
Totriornottotri Jul 2020 6:55pm, 27 Jul 2020 650 posts	0 Totriornottotri FR - forgive me for coming into this without as much experience as others and never attempted LL100 (but was entered this year). I also finished Dragon’s back last year and did plenty of training for that including a painful Snowdon 50 Ultra in a bit of a state. You obviously have experience (I remember trawling your posts earlier in the year preparing for the event) so it’s difficult to not teach you to suck eggs. But I’ll try! 1. Walking will be a good training for you - maybe even walk run. Try the Abraham’s Tea Round next Spring? 30 miles 3500m climb. It’s walkable - friends did it in 15hrs. 2. When walking - walk with a purpose. March. If you use poles go for it. I was knackered on Saturday at the end of the Tea Round totriornottotri.wordpress.com (everything hurt) but I was walking at 9min/km which is what I was doing on the Dragon. It makes a difference. Don’t bimble. 3. Know your tech. On the Snowdon Ultra 2018 (the one where lots dropped out) a lot of people gave the organisers a lot of stick (some deserved) but also there were some who didn’t understand what was on their wrist. totriornottotri.wordpress.com I don’t get money from blog or anything so I’m genuinely trying to help. I also can’t remember you exact details (sorry) so the above may be irrelevant. The best book I read about ultra training is Training Essentials for Ultrarunning: How to Train Smarter, Race Faster, and Maximize Your Ultramarathon Performance amazon.co.uk summarised as train your aerobic engine first (fast walks, easy long bike or runs). Then worry about course specifics near the end (trail and hills). Finally, and I don’t apologise for this but weight loss = more speed. I ran a 2:41 marathon 5 years ago. Why can’t I do it now. I weigh 15kg more. And if I tried to run 60mpw I’d be injured. Hope that helps.
Totriornottotri Jul 2020 6:56pm, 27 Jul 2020 651 posts	0 Totriornottotri DT’s and Dave’s advice is awesome and you not they need me to tell them/you that. I know you know that they know their stuff 😉
phal Jul 2020 7:50pm, 27 Jul 2020 2,931 posts	0 phal My twopenneth - walking training is invaluable as once your legs decide they don’t want to run any more, that’s what you’re left with. As much uphill walking as you can - as TTONTT says - at pace too 👍
Rosehip Jul 2020 8:10pm, 27 Jul 2020 17,181 posts	0 Rosehip nicking the advice for myself for the 50, no-one could persuade me to attempt a 100 anywhere! I was rather relieved when this year's got cancelled/postponed as I hadn't done anywhere near what I'd planned at that point, partly because Ralph-Springer, my walking companion, couldn't walk far and my field-stomping mileage was going to be well below normal. - Walking in mud: - Fenners, you probably know this, but the LDWA events I did in Jan and March are your friend, I'll be Stanstead Staggering, Hannington hiking and Herts hobbling next year - assuming they happen!