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How is your running surviving Covid chaos?

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Apr 2020
6:47pm, 5 Apr 2020
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CreatureOfTheHill
There is a difference between risk in different environments.
By far the most difficulty we have had in maintaining distance is while shopping.

All support for us disappeared when the lockdown started. We have managed that, and maintained social distancing, whilst putting our own health under stress. For the greater good we are comfortable with that. But honestly, threatening media stories actually put that compliance under review. We have spent our life up until we needed help in service of the public, some desperately vulnerable.

Our spirit is one of helping the greater good.

But part if us does not respond well to threats, especially when it comes from a system that essentially abandoned us when we asked it to support us in turn.

So in order to still be around in the future, we will do all that we can, but may well break a curfew if they try it.
Apr 2020
6:48pm, 5 Apr 2020
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FRU (KeepTheFaith)
I was thinking I should measure our garden, it is very small but I could at least do some sort of laps

Here it’s very urban I have struggled.. time of day getting important and staying on quirt streets rather than the park or river routes
Apr 2020
7:43pm, 5 Apr 2020
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rf_fozzy
Not sure that my mental health would survive more than a few days without being allowed outside to do some form of proper exercise.

It's a struggle as it is.
jda
Apr 2020
7:58pm, 5 Apr 2020
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jda
I think that several other countries who put people under house arrest also shut down a far wider range of businesses. Not much point fussing about people going for a walk or run outdoors when there are millions cramming onto public transport and into workplaces every day. Especially as the scientific advice has been very clear from the start that outdoor exercise is not just harmless but actually good for us.
Apr 2020
8:03pm, 5 Apr 2020
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Trin
Yes, the Spanish government either don't care about mental health or don't trust people to exercise responsibly
jda
Apr 2020
8:10pm, 5 Apr 2020
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jda
It’s been mentioned before, maybe other countries govts/people have more of a history of and tolerance of being ordered around at the pointy end of a gun.

And it’s still not obvious how it ends in Spain or Italy, for all that it looks to be coming under control there.
Apr 2020
8:18pm, 5 Apr 2020
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roberton
It's not obvious how it ends anywhere, not just Spain or Italy!

But I'm ok with that in the short term. We're buying time. Again (personally) I'm fine with that, the world will know more about the disease as the weeks go by and countries will have more time to prepare for whatever they decide to do next.

We will need a plan soon though...
Apr 2020
9:52pm, 5 Apr 2020
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swittle
House arrest? That implies an offence has been committed....or a measure taken against dissidents...oh, hang on....
Apr 2020
9:59pm, 5 Apr 2020
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Canute
I agree, Swittle, we need to keep things in perspective.

My own experience as a visitor to eastern Asian countries is that the citizens place a premium on responsibilty for family and society. In contrast, Westerners value indivdual liberty. The down-side of the social responsibility of east Asians is susceptibility to abuses of state power; the up-side is greater capcity to respond effectively to a pandemic.

However as as CotH says above, ‘Our spirit is one of helping the greater good. ‘

As a contribution to paying my way through medical school in the 1970’s, I taught technical drawing in a Comprehensive. Tech drawing was the default for the kids considered incapable of academic subjects. As a novice teacher I experienced the rough end of rebel behaviour. But I also saw that these rebellious kids valued both strength and kindness.

I have little natural sympathy with the present government, but I recognise that they are facing a difficult sitation. I value what they have done so far to preserve our ability to exercise. I think consider that responsibility to society is as important as individial liberty. I hope that we are still some distance from further restriction on exercise. Right now, I suspect that cooperation by the running community maximses the chance that we will continue to have the ability to exercise.

We do still live in a democracy. I am pleased that a barrister with a background as a human rights lawyer now leads the opposition. He declares he will cooperate with the government but hold them to account where necessary..

At present. we have great need for strength and kindness.
jda
Apr 2020
10:02pm, 5 Apr 2020
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jda
We are perhaps lucky in being able to watch what happens in other countries that are ahead of us. But that does require the humility to accept that we have something to learn and can’t just insist we have the best science in the world...

About This Thread

Maintained by Canute
Covid-19 case numbers continue to rise exponentially in the UK.

It is even more crucial to do everything we can to slow the rate of onset of new cases. Nonetheless, exercise remains important for our health.

The relevant piece of the legislation in England is:

The Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (England) Regulations 2020

Restrictions on movement

6.—(1) During the emergency period, no person may leave the place where they are living without reasonable excuse.

(2) For the purposes of paragraph (1), a reasonable excuse includes the need—

(a) to obtain basic necessities, including food and medical supplies for those in the same household (including any pets or animals in the household) or for vulnerable persons and supplies for the essential upkeep, maintenance and functioning of the household, or the household of a vulnerable person, or to obtain money, including from any business listed in Part 3 of Schedule 2;

(b) to take exercise either alone or with other members of their household;

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That is an abbreviated version. Here is a link to a more comprehensive specification of section 6:
legislation.gov.uk

Similar regulations apply in Scotland, where section 8, (5) (b) states:
(b) to take exercise, either alone or with other members of their household.
In Northern Ireland, section 5 (2) (b) is the same:
(b) to take exercise either alone or with other members of their household;

In Wales, the regulations state that you can leave the house no more than once a day for exercise, The relevant section [section 8] states:

(b) to take exercise, no more than once a day, either alone or with other members of the household.

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Here is a link to the guidance regarding a reasonable excuse to leave the house, issued by the National Police Chiefs Council (for England):
college.police.uk
Note added 26th May: unfortunately the clear guidelines issued in April have been taken down and replaced by a more complex collection of documents.
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The fact that the government accepts the importance of exercise places a responsibility on us to exercise in a way that reduces our risk of becoming a clinical case rather than increasing our risk.

Here is a review of the factors that influence the relationship between exercise and function of the immune system
fetcheveryone.com/blog/13360/2020/3#blog403926

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