Heart rate

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CB.
CB.
Jan 2007
2:08pm, 10 Jan 2007
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CB.
Its interesting people saying that whilst doing the HR max test you feel like you are going to die. I have been using my highest seen rate 184 as this was above the 220-Age formula 179 vs 184. The 184 came during the latter stages of the yateley 10k race whilst going up a fairly steepish incline at the 9k mark.

At that point I did not feel like I was going to die so does that mean that it is unlikely to have been 100% ?
Jan 2007
2:33pm, 10 Jan 2007
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Sounds like you've got some spare CB :)
Jan 2007
3:45pm, 10 Jan 2007
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I'd say that you you dodn't hit your max CB - I've not managed it in a race - only doing a test or a vicious speedwork session at Club!

Nice run today Recovery 5 and a bit after yesterdays strides
Was really easy to keep HR at 70% and at a slightly sub 8min/mile on an undulating and occasionally into the wind route.

It works, you know.
since I started training to a HR - my 8m/m HR has come down by more than 10 bpm!
:)
Jan 2007
4:03pm, 10 Jan 2007
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CB,
I'd agree with eL Bee!
When I started the HRM training I used the age based formula to calculate my max (came out at 185). After I'd finished a hilly race last September I checked the HRM and it showed a max of 190, which I now use as my max on the HRM setting.
CB.
CB.
Jan 2007
4:08pm, 10 Jan 2007
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CB.
OK

I think ill make the assumption that I was at 95% and move my max up to 193.

I enquired at the gym but they thought I was talking about VO2 Max ....doh!!

When I told them what i wanted to do they said...um not sure we could that we would have to check with Health & Safety....LOL as I watched some 50 yo 20st bloke purple in the face on a treadmill
Prop Forward
Prop Forward
Jan 2007
4:14pm, 10 Jan 2007
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Prop Forward
right, can some one answer a few questions for me about this heart rate training malarky. I have no problem with the concept or being too proud to run feckin slowly, but

1. how far do you need to run each time, ie i guess sometimes i go for a 20-25minute blast but i'm guessing this will not be long enough whilst plodding?
2. how many times a week do you need to run while following the scheme?
3. do you do any quick runs at all or are they all dead slow?
4. whats the name of the book that will cover all this? you know the one that people always talk about i just cant remember.

Cheers all
PF!
bigleggy
bigleggy
Jan 2007
4:16pm, 10 Jan 2007
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bigleggy
JB - I was reading the runners world site about max heart rate last night. It suggested that if what happened to you happened you should add 12 bpm onto your max heart rate and recalculate all your working zones.
bigleggy
bigleggy
Jan 2007
4:17pm, 10 Jan 2007
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bigleggy
Answer to 4 is Heart Monitor Training for the Compleat Idiot
Jan 2007
4:24pm, 10 Jan 2007
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Heart Monitor Training for the Compleat Idiot (Paperback)
by John L. Parker (Author)

amazon.co.uk

And NO - you don't just have to run slowly all the time - just that if you can build up to about and hour per session - with a longer run of up to 2 hours (when you are ticking over in your training) you will maximise the effect of aerobic conditioning and the build up of mitochondria - those lovely little cellular level power houses that give us lots of fabulous endurance.

I'd suggest you get and read the book - it'll give you plenty to think about - and it really does work - even if running at 70%WHR LOTS seems counterintuitive
Jan 2007
4:24pm, 10 Jan 2007
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Ooops - sorry - broke the page
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Everything you need to know about training with a heart rate monitor. Remember the motto "I can maintain a fast pace over the race distance because I am an Endurance God". Mind the trap door....

Gobi lurks here, but for his advice you must first speak his name. Ask and you shall receive.

A quote:

"The area between the top of the aerobic threshold and anaerobic threshold is somewhat of a no mans land of fitness. It is a mix of aerobic and anaerobic states. For the amount of effort the athlete puts forth, not a whole lot of fitness is produced. It does not train the aerobic or anaerobic energy system to a high degree. This area does have its place in training; it is just not in base season. Unfortunately this area is where I find a lot of athletes spending the majority of their seasons, which retards aerobic development. The athletes heart rate shoots up to this zone with little power or speed being produced when it gets there." Matt Russ, US International Coach

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