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Sep 2013
7:24pm, 7 Sep 2013
16,744 posts
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FR
Garfield, the major plus in my view is less to do with heart rate and more to do with muscle damage. Start walking in an Ultra or marathon early and you delay muscle fatigue.
*PS I have done a 3:45 marathon walking EVERY mile!!!
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Sep 2013
7:28pm, 7 Sep 2013
3,334 posts
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Garfield
Yep, definitely. I've found that going to HR has me going a little easier than the run walk by itself at the moment.
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Sep 2013
7:49pm, 7 Sep 2013
495 posts
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Revbarbarag
Ooh, all good interesting stuff.
The write-up for the book on Amazon says it comes with a guarantee - if you don't see results in a month, you can return the book for a full refund. The fetch article says it can take 3 months...... either way, I can afford to give it long enough to see if it's working.
Building up the miles is important.... if running slowly, or, run-walking, is what I need to do to enable me to build up enough miles to complete the marathon, then that's what I'm going to do. It doesn't rule out having a good old blast at Parkrun once every few weeks, does it? Once the ankle's 100%, that is.
Oh, my run was brilliant, by the way. I didn't do a good job of staying below the threshhold (again) - I decided I was going to run up those hills, not walk, and no matter how slow I went I couldn't keep my HR down enough. BUT that means I will have been working my cardiovascular system, so that will get stronger, and in a few weeks my ultra-slow pace up those hills should be at a lower HR than it was today.
Most of all, though - I enjoyed myself. I love running!!!! I want to run. I want to run a marathon. I want to stay fit enough to train enough to run a marathon. Slow, slow, slow slow slow....
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Sep 2013
7:57pm, 7 Sep 2013
2,199 posts
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rosehip
and that's what matters Rev, you enjoyedvit  good one!
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Sep 2013
8:14pm, 7 Sep 2013
19,013 posts
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eL Bee!
FR - that only works up to a point.
You would struggle to do a sub 3 hour marathon with walk breaks every mile!
For very long events, however, a structured "This is when I walk, and this is when I run" Strategy is very useful
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Sep 2013
8:30pm, 7 Sep 2013
752 posts
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Canute
Possibly the most impressive example of an athlete who runs lots of slow miles is Ed Whitlock – first person over 70 to run a marathon under 3 hours and current holder of world M80-84 records for marathon, half marathon and several other distances. He runs slowly for several hours each day (though he does not use a HRM). In addition to lots of slow running, he also runs about 20 races (at various distances) per year. So at least for Ed Whitlock, a lot of slow running with about 20 high intensity efforts per year works very well.
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Sep 2013
9:05pm, 7 Sep 2013
879 posts
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Longwayround (LWR)
FR, I work that out by having read Edwards' book.
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Sep 2013
9:11pm, 7 Sep 2013
1,037 posts
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Goofee
Canute; do you know what pace EW defines as slow in terms of his normal marathon pace - MP+25%, for example?
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Sep 2013
10:46pm, 7 Sep 2013
16,749 posts
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FR
El Bee. Galloway claims that more than a handful of runners have gone sub-2:45 with walk breaks!!!!!!!!
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Sep 2013
10:48pm, 7 Sep 2013
16,750 posts
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FR
.....and sub-3 for Americans employing walk breaks until mile 18-20 is very common
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