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Nov 2020
10:11am, 11 Nov 2020
2,012 posts
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Oscar the Grouch
Really enjoyed that first Simon Hughes book, WS. Not so much the second.
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Nov 2020
10:13am, 11 Nov 2020
28,808 posts
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Wriggling Snake
Yes, the usual, he had one good idea, much like his analysis, and banged on for ever more.
I have probably said this before, Vic Marks, read VIc Marks whenever you can.
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Nov 2020
10:29am, 11 Nov 2020
54,700 posts
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Diogenes
I think it was Ian Botham's book, written with (and I suspect mainly by, as far as the writing went) Peter Roebuck, It Sort Of Clicks*, which first made me aware of how much time professional cricketers spent driving up and down the motorway network. Being Somerset players they'd find themselves sometimes finishing a championship game in Kent and having to drive to Lancashire for a one day before returning to Taunton/home afterwards. Most were very poorly paid at the time too.
[RIP Roebuck. loved the nod to Patrick Hamilton's Hangover Square in the title]
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Nov 2020
11:33am, 11 Nov 2020
2,014 posts
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Oscar the Grouch
He's not fondly remembered in these parts, Dio. Rather a lot of smoke about inappropriate contact with minors and also of striking the odd one. Clearly he is no longer here to defend himself.
He was also the fella that saw off Richards and Garner (and Botham as a result). They were both towards mid 30s by then but poor Martin Crowe was rather set up to fail despite undoubtedly being brilliant.
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Nov 2020
11:36am, 11 Nov 2020
22,665 posts
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Nicholls595
That whole incident is covered in Pringle's book. Crowe was supposed to be going to Essex. Roebuck also gets a few, not so complimentary mentions from his Cambridge days.
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Nov 2020
11:42am, 11 Nov 2020
54,710 posts
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Diogenes
He was certainly a divisive and unusual person. He wrote very well about cricket, and you couldn't fault his reasoning on Richards and Garner, even if he failed to understand how unpopular that decision would be.
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Nov 2020
11:46am, 11 Nov 2020
2,015 posts
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Oscar the Grouch
The decision per se was said to be a committee one, but a character like Roebuck would back it because it meant his personal standing and leadership would be higher with those that remined. There are plenty of supporters who have not forgiven or forgotten. As you say, Dio, he did write well but he is no Gideon Haigh
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Nov 2020
1:26pm, 13 Nov 2020
6,295 posts
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57.5 Degrees of Pain
I think Derek Pringle found his level as the new Keith Pont. He was no Stuart Turner.
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Nov 2020
1:42pm, 13 Nov 2020
123,673 posts
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GregP
Where does Norbert Phillips fit in?
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Nov 2020
1:46pm, 13 Nov 2020
22,691 posts
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Nicholls595
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The Ashes 2009
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