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Mar 2016
6:54pm, 19 Mar 2016
9,473 posts
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Columba
When I was Ed-psyching, Ed psychs couldn't "diagnose" autism on their own. It had to be a team, - Ed psych, paediatrician and speech and language therapist. Waiting list was then about 3 - 4 months. But that was 7 years ago.
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Mar 2016
7:00pm, 19 Mar 2016
20,678 posts
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halfpint
Same model here columba, but at the mercy of those 3 professionals and we are all stretched to limit. C I can't remember 'shire model. You can, in theory, self refer to EP service.
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Mar 2016
7:19pm, 19 Mar 2016
9,476 posts
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Columba
That is true, you can. If that happened in our service, and if the child was in school, the referral would be bounced straight back to the school: "Tell us about this child".
If the child was being educated "otherwise" it was a different matter; we had to investigate.
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Mar 2016
7:22pm, 19 Mar 2016
2,282 posts
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Cyclops
If parents contact EP service the EPs just phone school anyway and it goes through the usual system. If we have a child who starts school aged 3 or 4 without being on anyone's radar, we expect them to have made it through the system of diagnosis and whatever level of support they need decided on round about the end of Y3.
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Mar 2016
8:27pm, 19 Mar 2016
20,679 posts
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halfpint
It depends on the EP. If I got a direct referral I would indeed go back to the school but I know, through professional and personal experience, that a child presenting as 'fine' in school isn't necessarily doing fine. Convincing schools of this is a challenge but I would potentially arrange a consultation to work out what is going on.
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Mar 2016
10:47am, 20 Mar 2016
3,934 posts
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Jono.
I agree half pint, schools are not equipped to diagnose children on the autistic spectrum, quite often the schools *special needs* teacher has not even been on a course.
we always wished we had sent Joe to a special needs school after he was diagnosed, but you live and learn.
btw whilst your all on - Joe has got to the age where its hard to get Velcro fastening one's, so after someone of Fetch suggested lockable laces, mrs j got some offa the web.
broached the subject with j jnr - after I'd put them on his new addidas trainers - and the idea didn't go done well, *no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no, 2 swift kicks to my shins. I don't want laces!*
erm, clearly some work to be done their 
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Mar 2016
11:49am, 20 Mar 2016
4 posts
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Valyrian Plastic
I think it was me who suggested the lock laces to you, Jono - it's a shame they haven't worked out because I find them much easier to adjust on-the-fly than Velcro.
I think Joe will warm to them eventually. The product works - it just needs a new pitch.
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Mar 2016
1:06pm, 20 Mar 2016
3,936 posts
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Jono.
ahhh yes it was VP - its okay, I think they're great I was going to put a pair in my running shoes Joe just needs a bit of work
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Mar 2016
2:23pm, 20 Mar 2016
2,283 posts
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Cyclops
The whole staff are trained at our place and we have constant reminders and updates about being autism and dyslexia friendly. All the same the attitude of individual staff members does have an effect.
I imagine that new anything will be trying Jono - I like my lock laces so at least you'll benefit even if Joe never quite gets his head around the idea.
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Mar 2016
12:47pm, 21 Mar 2016
3,938 posts
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Jono.
he's having a right old time at the moment- he can't understand why he has to go back to school for 4 days after easter and then breaks up for 2 weeks.
the shoes will be find once we place him in a half nelson and super glue them to his feet.
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