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The benefits of giving up alcohol

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Derby Tup
Derby Tup
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Didn’t Steve Redgrave develop diabetes through eating loads of energy bars, sugary snacks etc? Not good for teeth either
Grast_girl
Grast_girl
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You could read the latest sacn report here: gov.uk

Technical in places, but should cover everything. It is about 5 years old now, so there could be better evidence now.
HappyG(rrr)
HappyG(rrr)
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10:24pm, 21 Sep 2020
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Thanks guys. Not worried about teeth or weight. Will read that SACN report in more detail later. Ta! :-) G
sweetpeas
sweetpeas
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Didn’t know that Derby!

I’m in today.
Derby Tup
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I’m in
HappyG(rrr)
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It doesn't say that the high energy ( sugary) diet caused the Type 2 diabetes for Redgrave, just that he was diagnosed with it. Also, he continued the high energy diet and just injected more insulin, more regularly than most non-athletes with T2D would.

https://www.diabetes.co.uk/celebrities/steve-redgrave.html#:~:text=At%20the%20time%2C%20Redgrave%20was,sugar%20diet%20following%20his%20diagnosis.

On Diabetes UK website it doesn't actually say "sugar causes diabetes".

TYPE 2 DIABETES RISK FACTORS
A number of factors can increase the risk of developing type 2 diabetes.

These include:

Being overweight or obese
Having a waist size of 31.5 inches or more (women) or more than 37 inches (men)
Eating an unhealthy diet
Physical inactivity
Having a first-degree relative with type 2 diabetes
Having high blood pressure or raised cholesterol levels
Being of South Asian and African-Caribbean descent
Smoking

As I don't have 7 out of 8 of those risk factors, my reading would be, eat as much sugar-shizzle as you like, you are protected by the other 7 risk factors being zero?

Or am I just reaching the conclusion I want to reach. Is there a Diabetes thread in Fetch? I could go off and ask! :-) G
Grast_girl
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12:06pm, 22 Sep 2020
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The key point of the sacn report that most miss is the fibre target.

If I remember correctly, they also say that to have an effect on teeth you'd have to cut out sugar entirely.
Diogenes
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12:39pm, 22 Sep 2020
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Why would you want to eat lots of sugar?
HappyG(rrr)
HappyG(rrr)
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Is that to me Dio?

I don't drink, smoke, or eat meat. It's my only vice! I like choc, sweets and cakes. I don't want to kill myself, so I want to understand how damaging it might be.

Specifically relating to this thread, sweets are seen as a good diversion from alcohol, specifically advocates by AA.
HappyG(rrr)
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12:47pm, 22 Sep 2020
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diabetes.co.uk link to Steve Redgrave diabetes

About This Thread

Maintained by HappyG(rrr)
Looks as though this thread has become popular again, here in 2010 (it's now 2024, and it started in 2008, so I think "ever popular" might be more apt! :-) G ) :-) Good Luck everyone.

A recent plea for those struggling to "reach out" as they say in US of A!

"Anyone not feeling strong and confident, please shout out. Or fmail. Or any other comms that works. Don't drink alcohol when you don't want to, for lack of someone to talk to. Pick up the phone, not the bottle."

Some acronyms, in case people use them:
JFT - Just for today
ODAAT - One day at a time
KIS - Keep it simple
TBOGUA - The Benefits Of Giving Up Alcohol (the title of this thread!)

New feature: article/blog of the month (period may change randomly!) Swittle's wonderful 14,611 days blog: (see links below)

Linking Joopsy's 17 year blog too, cos it's awesome!

There is a GREAT article summarising some of the benefits, to save you having to trawl through the thread (includes links to helpful apps and other resources).

And a great list of Alternative Drinks started by the lovely LindsD:

Please add to these articles and make them as valuable as possible! Thanks! :-) G

And one from way back when...
Dirt Monkey's brilliant blog on TBOGUA too - go try this...

Rebel has recommended a couple of good books:
The Unexpected Joy of Being Sober: THE SUNDAY TIMES BESTSELLER
by Catherine Gray

The Alcohol Experiment: 30 Days to Take Control, Cut Down or Give Up For Good
by Annie Grace

A great response from a health professional in Ireland responding to a question from a Guardian reader about why the warnings on alcoholic drinks that are coming in:

theguardian.com

"Alcohol is responsible for at least 1,000 cancer cases every year in Ireland, with one in eight breast cancer cases arising from alcohol use. Even one to two drinks per day increases the risk of developing cancer, and that risk is the same whether those drinks are wine, spirits or beer. Unfortunately, there is a very low level of public awareness that alcohol has been classed as a Group 1 carcinogen, meaning it is carcinogenic to humans. That is why Ireland has passed legislation that provides for health information labels on alcohol products, including warnings about cancer, liver disease and the danger of drinking in pregnancy. It is unsurprising that the alcohol industry, which promotes its products with carefully crafted myths of good times for all, is objecting to the mandatory provision of facts (Anger brews in Italy over Ireland’s plans for alcohol health warnings, 12 January).
Dr Sheila Gilheany
CEO, Alcohol Action Ireland
"

And the all important fabulous services:
Alcoholics Anonymous
National Helpline (FREE) 0800 9177 650
help@aamail.org

Al Anon
020 7403 0888

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We're adding in our own Fetch offer of one to one contact too, for anyone who doesn't want to post in the thread for whatever reason. Please feel free to fmail ANY of the names listed below.

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HappyG(rrr)
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mrs shanksi
Derby Tup
iaincr
Love Lettuce
DocM
LindsD
GeneHunt59
GregP star
Joopsy star

Note: we're none of us experts, but we're happy to listen, to answer any questions and to offer support if you think it would help you. Except star marked above. Who are experts! :-)

(Note II: at Christmas some names may change a bit, but I'm sure you can still find us to fmail!)
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