Polarized training

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Jul 2015
11:12am, 24 Jul 2015
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Ninky Nonk
I understand that thyroid hormone can significantly affect lactate transporters.

Might explain proportion of elites with thyroid 'issues'.

Not sure how thyroid is affected with age but might limit benefits of attempts to train this area?
J2R
Jul 2015
12:51pm, 24 Jul 2015
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J2R
Chrisull, not sure what you mean by 'a "pure" Heart rate training program over trains the type 1s' - please elucidate.

I've been following a polarized training regime for the last 3 months now and I've had some pretty good results. But I'm feeling my 5K speed is down, and I'm not sure why. I suspect it's probably to do with what I'm doing to make up the high intensity part of the programme, rather than anything to do with polarization per se. It could also simply be to do with the fact that I've been tired for various different reasons when I've done my 5Ks and Parkruns lately. It's just that after 3 or 4 times in succession of falling some way short of your expected time, even if you have what seem to be perfectly good explanations, you start to wonder whether there's something else wrong.

I'm doing a 5 mile race this evening, which should be a decent indicator of where I'm at (although my legs are still a little tired from some serious hillwork on holiday in the Carpathians earlier in the month).
Jul 2015
1:31pm, 24 Jul 2015
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Canute
NN
Lactates is transported by transporters that belong to the monocaboxylate transporter family (MCT). Four members of this family (MCT1 to MCT4) transport lactate, across various different membranes. Transport from type 2 to type 1 muscle fibres and subsequent utilization involves two different MCTs, one of which is MCT4.

MCT8 is a specific thyroid hormone transporter. Because of molecular similarity between the transporters, thyroid hormone also interacts with other MCTs. In particular, one of the two thyroid hormones, Triiodothyronine (T3) increases MCT4 and produces a substantial increase in transport of lactate across internal membranes in muscle cells. This might be one of the ways in which thyroid hormone can boost performance.
Thyroid hormone abnormalities, both hyperthyroidism and hypothyroidism, have increased prevalence in the elderly. Hypothyroidism occurs in about 8% of elderly men. Hypothyoidism would be expected to impair lactate transport though it is not clear that this would completely obstruct the development of increased capacity to transport lactate. With regard to my own situation, I do not show any evidence of hypothyroidism.
Jul 2015
1:53pm, 24 Jul 2015
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Canute
J2R, have you continued to record beats/mile. Has there been any evidence for unexpected increase (or decrease in beats/mile?
J2R
Jul 2015
2:11pm, 24 Jul 2015
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J2R
Canute, no marked change in beats/mile, apart from a slight decrease at my 'easy' running pace which I put down to improved fitness. I'm now finding that the typical pace I used to do most of my easy runs at before I started on the polarized training, around 7:30-7:45 mins/mile, is putting me at 60-65% of my working heart rate, and as a consequence I no longer feel I have to slow down to do polarized training. Nonetheless I'm perfectly happy to run much slower as well, which I wouldn't have been before, and that's a nice bonus!
Jul 2015
8:53pm, 29 Jul 2015
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Canute
It is well established that differences between elite athletes in volume of zone 1 training (comfortably below LT) predicts distance race performance (eg 10Km) . It is also fairly well established that a high cortisol values sustained across a period of months predicts poorer performance in elite athletes.

However, somewhat paradoxically, within an individual athlete, week to week variations in training volume and cortisol values make the opposite predictions. In a study comparing seasons best and seasons worst performance in elite athletes, total training volume was less but volume of zone 3 training (appreciably above LT) was greater in the week before the seasons best performance. Cortisol tended to be higher a week before the best performance, Counter move jump height was also higher in the week before the best performance

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ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

This apparent paradox is consistent with the evidence that a taper should involve decrease volume but not a decrease in training intensity. The fact that CMJ was higher before the season’s best performance suggest to me that zone 3 training in the week preceding the event promotes good neuromuscular coordination
Jul 2015
9:11pm, 29 Jul 2015
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Ninky Nonk
Sounds like another thumbs up for lydiard...
Jul 2015
9:31pm, 29 Jul 2015
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Canute
NN
I agree it is a thumbs up for a key feature of Lydiard’s periodization, but one point on which I differ form is his belief that one you start the high intensity training that puts a cap on the developments achieved during base-building. There are two major bits of evidence to the contrary: I; high intensity training increases aerobic capacity, including increase in mitochondrial enzymes; 2 : many elite athletes do a moderate proportion of high intensity training even during ‘base-building’ Lydiard is one of my heroes, and indeed strongly influenced my training in the 1960’s,, but we have learned a lot since the 1960’s.
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9:48pm, 29 Jul 2015
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Ninky Nonk
You must admit it's hardly an earth shattering conclusion though.
Jul 2015
10:27pm, 29 Jul 2015
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Canute
I agree, up to a point. Peter Snell's 800m record stood for several decades. However in later life, when asked if there was anything he would change about the way he had trained under Lydiard's guidance, Snell said he would have done some high intensity training though-out the year.

The mistaken idea that high intensity training damages aerobic capacity has caused a lot of confusion ever since the 1960's and led to sub-optimal training by many of Hadd's disciples.

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Polarised training is a form of training that places emphasis on the two extremes of intensity. There is a large amount of low intensity training (comfortably below lactate threshold) and an appreciable minority of high intensity training (above LT).

Polarised training does also include some training near lactate threshold, but the amount of threshold training is modest, in contrast to the relatively high proportion of threshold running that is popular among some recreational runners.

Polarised training is not new. It has been used for many years by many elites and some recreational runners. However, it has attracted great interest in recent years for two reasons.

First, detailed reviews of the training of many elite endurance athletes confirms that they employ a polarised approach (typically 80% low intensity, 10% threshold and 10% high intensity. )

Secondly, several scientific studies have demonstrated that for well trained athletes who have reached a plateau of performance, polarised training produces greater gains in fitness and performance, than other forms of training such as threshold training on the one hand, or high volume, low intensity training on the other.

Much of the this evidence was reviewed by Stephen Seiler in a lecture delivered in Paris in 2013 .
vimeo.com

In case you cannot access that lecture by Seiler in 2013, here is a link to his more recent TED talk.

ted.com
This has less technical detail than his 2013 talk, but is nonetheless a very good introduction to the topic. It should be noted that from the historical perspective, Seiler shows a US bias.

Here is another useful video by Stephen Seiler in which he discusses the question of the optimum intensity and duration of low intensity sessions. Although the answer ‘depends on circumstances’ he proposes that a low intensity session should be long enough to reach the point where there are detectable indications of rising stress (either the beginning of upwards drift of HR or increased in perceived effort). If longer than this, there is increasing risk of damaging effects. A session shorter than this might not be enough to produce enough stress to achieve a useful training effect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GXc474Hu5U


The coach who probably deserves the greatest credit for emphasis on the value of low intensity training was Arthur Lydiard, who coached some of the great New Zealanders in the 1960's and Scandinavians in the 1970’s. One of his catch-phrases was 'train, don't strain'. However Lydiard never made it really clear what he meant by ‘quarter effort’. I have discussed Lydiard’s ideas on several occasions on my Wordpress blog. For example: canute1.wordpress.com

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