Polarized training
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Jul 2015
11:12am, 24 Jul 2015
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Ninky Nonk
I understand that thyroid hormone can significantly affect lactate transporters. Might explain proportion of elites with thyroid 'issues'. Not sure how thyroid is affected with age but might limit benefits of attempts to train this area? |
Jul 2015
12:51pm, 24 Jul 2015
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J2R
Chrisull, not sure what you mean by 'a "pure" Heart rate training program over trains the type 1s' - please elucidate. I've been following a polarized training regime for the last 3 months now and I've had some pretty good results. But I'm feeling my 5K speed is down, and I'm not sure why. I suspect it's probably to do with what I'm doing to make up the high intensity part of the programme, rather than anything to do with polarization per se. It could also simply be to do with the fact that I've been tired for various different reasons when I've done my 5Ks and Parkruns lately. It's just that after 3 or 4 times in succession of falling some way short of your expected time, even if you have what seem to be perfectly good explanations, you start to wonder whether there's something else wrong. I'm doing a 5 mile race this evening, which should be a decent indicator of where I'm at (although my legs are still a little tired from some serious hillwork on holiday in the Carpathians earlier in the month). |
Jul 2015
1:31pm, 24 Jul 2015
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Canute
NN Lactates is transported by transporters that belong to the monocaboxylate transporter family (MCT). Four members of this family (MCT1 to MCT4) transport lactate, across various different membranes. Transport from type 2 to type 1 muscle fibres and subsequent utilization involves two different MCTs, one of which is MCT4. MCT8 is a specific thyroid hormone transporter. Because of molecular similarity between the transporters, thyroid hormone also interacts with other MCTs. In particular, one of the two thyroid hormones, Triiodothyronine (T3) increases MCT4 and produces a substantial increase in transport of lactate across internal membranes in muscle cells. This might be one of the ways in which thyroid hormone can boost performance. Thyroid hormone abnormalities, both hyperthyroidism and hypothyroidism, have increased prevalence in the elderly. Hypothyroidism occurs in about 8% of elderly men. Hypothyoidism would be expected to impair lactate transport though it is not clear that this would completely obstruct the development of increased capacity to transport lactate. With regard to my own situation, I do not show any evidence of hypothyroidism. |
Jul 2015
1:53pm, 24 Jul 2015
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Canute
J2R, have you continued to record beats/mile. Has there been any evidence for unexpected increase (or decrease in beats/mile?
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Jul 2015
2:11pm, 24 Jul 2015
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J2R
Canute, no marked change in beats/mile, apart from a slight decrease at my 'easy' running pace which I put down to improved fitness. I'm now finding that the typical pace I used to do most of my easy runs at before I started on the polarized training, around 7:30-7:45 mins/mile, is putting me at 60-65% of my working heart rate, and as a consequence I no longer feel I have to slow down to do polarized training. Nonetheless I'm perfectly happy to run much slower as well, which I wouldn't have been before, and that's a nice bonus!
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Jul 2015
8:53pm, 29 Jul 2015
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Canute
It is well established that differences between elite athletes in volume of zone 1 training (comfortably below LT) predicts distance race performance (eg 10Km) . It is also fairly well established that a high cortisol values sustained across a period of months predicts poorer performance in elite athletes. However, somewhat paradoxically, within an individual athlete, week to week variations in training volume and cortisol values make the opposite predictions. In a study comparing seasons best and seasons worst performance in elite athletes, total training volume was less but volume of zone 3 training (appreciably above LT) was greater in the week before the seasons best performance. Cortisol tended to be higher a week before the best performance, Counter move jump height was also higher in the week before the best performance . ncbi.nlm.nih.gov This apparent paradox is consistent with the evidence that a taper should involve decrease volume but not a decrease in training intensity. The fact that CMJ was higher before the season’s best performance suggest to me that zone 3 training in the week preceding the event promotes good neuromuscular coordination |
Jul 2015
9:11pm, 29 Jul 2015
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Ninky Nonk
Sounds like another thumbs up for lydiard...
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Jul 2015
9:31pm, 29 Jul 2015
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Canute
NN I agree it is a thumbs up for a key feature of Lydiard’s periodization, but one point on which I differ form is his belief that one you start the high intensity training that puts a cap on the developments achieved during base-building. There are two major bits of evidence to the contrary: I; high intensity training increases aerobic capacity, including increase in mitochondrial enzymes; 2 : many elite athletes do a moderate proportion of high intensity training even during ‘base-building’ Lydiard is one of my heroes, and indeed strongly influenced my training in the 1960’s,, but we have learned a lot since the 1960’s. |
Jul 2015
9:48pm, 29 Jul 2015
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Ninky Nonk
You must admit it's hardly an earth shattering conclusion though.
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Jul 2015
10:27pm, 29 Jul 2015
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Canute
I agree, up to a point. Peter Snell's 800m record stood for several decades. However in later life, when asked if there was anything he would change about the way he had trained under Lydiard's guidance, Snell said he would have done some high intensity training though-out the year. The mistaken idea that high intensity training damages aerobic capacity has caused a lot of confusion ever since the 1960's and led to sub-optimal training by many of Hadd's disciples. |
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