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Jan 2007
1:42pm, 17 Jan 2007
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BB,
I think you're spot on.
I must admit that, for my 70% training runs, I tend to just try and keep to my calculated 70%max WHR (148) and don't tend to worry about the uphill bits (I find that they even out more or less with the downhill bits).
I think I'll be following your approach from now on! Thanks.
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Jan 2007
1:43pm, 17 Jan 2007
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CB.
BB
thats the way I read it as well although he does say that if it goes over by a few beats for a short time not to get hung up on it.
I'm not sure the 168 against 156 constitutes the few beats but then again maybe experienced HRM runners can get away with it. I get he impression with Parkers book it is aimed at the HRM beginners.
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Jan 2007
1:45pm, 17 Jan 2007
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B.B.
When I'm actually right on my 70%, then I think I'm doing c.7:30-7:45 pace, but my runs all tend to be over 8:00.
JB - I also cheat a little bit on hills - allowing yourself to go 5 beats over is fair enough
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Jan 2007
1:47pm, 17 Jan 2007
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B.B.
CB - it is aimed at beginners, but the principles are the same for experienced and fast people.
For example he says in the book that fit people find it really difficult to run at 85%+ - i.e. it's tough to get their heart up to that level. I'm pretty fit now, and find tempo runs a flipping nightmare. Did one last night, and my average HR was 10 bpm (170) below my 80% level (180)
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Jan 2007
1:50pm, 17 Jan 2007
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BB, yes I always keep below the 70% ceiling, usually as you do at about 65% ish.
Certainly a few beats according to Parker don't matter - especially while you are getting used to it.
For hills, I always use the rule of thumb that if I will go over for more than 30 seconds to a minute then I walk and let it fall a bit before I continue running..
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Jan 2007
1:54pm, 17 Jan 2007
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Cliffy tc
I decided to ignore my HR on shorter hills and it only control it on the longer ones today, it meant I was running for longer periods and I enjoyed it more than last weeks walking every hill. The only downside was that my HR was over my 80% level for longer periods instead of last weeks short blips.
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Jan 2007
1:57pm, 17 Jan 2007
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Patience Cliffy, patience... 
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Jan 2007
1:59pm, 17 Jan 2007
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Cliffy tc
I haven't got any.
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Jan 2007
2:01pm, 17 Jan 2007
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B.B.
I can just hear Ian croning out Take That
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Jan 2007
2:08pm, 17 Jan 2007
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Absolutely BB, that's what I was doing!
'have a little, patinence....'
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