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May 2013
4:52pm, 8 May 2013
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Pestomum
accepted, but without any specific evidence of that in the specific instance I maintain it's a mistake to assume an ulterior motive.
*goes off to look for fairies and pretty things*
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May 2013
4:56pm, 8 May 2013
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Discovery Dave
I'm not sure the ulterior motive is even conscious...
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May 2013
4:56pm, 8 May 2013
2,939 posts
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Pestomum
(i fear I am in danger of getting annoyed about things on the internet. Sorry, peeps.)
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May 2013
5:20pm, 8 May 2013
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Columba
Velociraptor - there seems to be strong anti-DSM5 feeling amongst educational psychologists, and also among UK psychiatrists. Apparently DSM5 creates a huge multiplication of possible diagnoses, and (perhaps cynically?) EPs and UK psychiatrists see this as serving primarily the pharmaceutical industry, enabling them to market drug treatments for all sorts of conditions which have hitherto not been labelled.
Chrisull - yes indeed, the "umbrella" covering autistic spectrum disorders (including Asperger's) seems to have grown bigger and bigger and bigger. The "milder" cases, that can cope in mainstream schools with sympathetic and understanding staff, would simply not have been regarded as autistic in the early 70s, when there was no real idea of a "spectrum", and the incidence was quoted as 1 in 2,500. Shortly before I retired in 2009, the incidence was about 4%. I wonder whether changes in the educational system over several decades have led to children who would formerly have been accepted merely as "odd bods" now being seen as "problems".
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May 2013
5:28pm, 8 May 2013
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Velociraptor
I'm not at all surprised that DSM5 isn't generating a big fan base in the business, Columba. I'm not impressed with some of the categories that have found their way into it myself.
I can think of kids I was at school with who were just accommodated (or taken out for "remedial" classes in reading, writing and sums, or given the belt if they were disruptive) and who would now be labelled as having autism, ADHD or whatever. Not saying that's a good thing or a bad thing, just that it's how it was.
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May 2013
7:03pm, 8 May 2013
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Ultra Sparkly Bridget (USB)
I have to confess that we are still looking at DSM4 when we are debating a diagnosis 
Chrisull - I think that the discussion was around more able children with possible ASD because those are the sort of children DD was asking about. The children I assess cover the entire spectrum and sometimes we find it hard to comprehend how they have stayed under the radar until just a few months before starting school.
Yes diagnosis has increased and got better. I find myself wondering in retrospect whether more formal identification of my son's difficulties would have helped when he struggled to fit in and accept teasing at college. I am also very aware of my own traits and can appreciate that they probably led me into so very risky scenarios as a teenagers. Would a label have helped? Some guidance on the social front would have for sure.
What I am seeing at the moment is nurseries who are saying that without being able to understand a child's difficulties they may not be able to keep them in the setting. This may well be around funding but it does worry me that they are looking for a label rather than at the child's needs.
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May 2013
7:28pm, 8 May 2013
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*jono*
well f*ck me sideways - I was just thinking the other day, surely an Autisim thread would be useful on Fetch and here it is. J Jnr is 10 and Autistic, classic Autisim probably best discribes him.
I'll keep a watch on here
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May 2013
10:20pm, 8 May 2013
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Discovery Dave
Thanks all. Top stuff. Fetch is great.
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May 2013
10:23pm, 8 May 2013
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Johnny Blaze
Sam went to a screening of the Muppets Movie which was for autistic children only. Mrs B tells me it was an interesting experience.
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May 2013
10:28pm, 8 May 2013
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Nellers
I heard something the other week about a performance of The Lion King for autistic children. Some of the performers were absolutely blown away by the experience. It sounded like the kids enjoyed it, too.
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