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Sep 2019
7:06pm, 1 Sep 2019
13,376 posts
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Rosehip
I'm with WA, uneducated Veganism, based on Greggs vegan sausage rolls and KFC vegan meals will make matters worse.
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Sep 2019
7:08pm, 1 Sep 2019
2,477 posts
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FenlandRunner
Greggs Vegan sausage rolls are fabulous. Love them.
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Sep 2019
7:15pm, 1 Sep 2019
34,682 posts
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Nellers
Sometimes and sometimes. There will always be a decision prior to the bout about who is going to win, and usually how (most wrestlers have a signature finishing move which they'll want to win with). There will always be some pre-arrangement to the course of the match. Whether it's entirely choreographed depends on the wrestlers involved and the setting. If they've worked together a lot and it's a low key show then they might decide to "call it in the ring" and just make it up as they go. If they've not worked together much, or if it's a big show with a lot riding on the match there will be more preparation and pre-arrangement.
And whatever is agreed in advance audience reaction might well change things as the match progresses, so if one thing isn't working or they're not getting the reaction hey want, then they'll have the freedom to switch things during the match and work the crowd.
It's not sport. Its a show, but I get a bit annoyed at the "it's all fake" thing. I've seen it up close. There aren't any special effects in wrestling, or clever editing to make it look good on the telly. Those guys (and girls) really do that stuff for real.
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Sep 2019
7:21pm, 1 Sep 2019
28,980 posts
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♪♫ Egnys ♪♫
[Letter to one of the papers this week: anything you can do while smoking a cigarette cannot be considered a sport.
Reply the next day from a village cricketer who was once caught on the boundary by a fielder with a cigarette in one hand and a pint in the other, who put the pint down for long enough to take the catch!]
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Sep 2019
7:37pm, 1 Sep 2019
56,613 posts
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swittle
It's sport if it can make sacks of cash....
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Sep 2019
7:39pm, 1 Sep 2019
34,683 posts
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Nellers
Is it then not a sport if it can't Swits? Triathlon? Rowing? Athletics?
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Sep 2019
7:49pm, 1 Sep 2019
56,615 posts
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swittle
Nellers - money, like sport, is never as binary as that.
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Sep 2019
8:08pm, 1 Sep 2019
6,170 posts
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WA
That's really interesting Nellers. Appreciate the explanation 
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Sep 2019
10:01pm, 1 Sep 2019
2,514 posts
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jacdaw
Veganism won't save the world, or even close, and it is not a healthy human diet. Food from grazed livestock is not a challenge to the climate, and allows food production on land unsuitable for other food production. The use of livestock in sustainable arable with long complex rotations, and periods under grass is far better than any arable system with synthetic fertiliser.
It is being promoted by large food processing companies because it is an opportunity to sell low value foods at high prices.
And don't even ask about the influence of the seventh day adventists.
But don't eat factory meat!
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Sep 2019
7:05am, 2 Sep 2019
13,377 posts
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Rosehip
round of applause for ^ Jacdaw -
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