Hadd's Approach To Distance Running

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Daz Love Nov 2016 8:42pm, 12 Nov 2016 426 posts	0 Daz Love Just read again and makes so much sense! between 8:45 and 9 per mile for me and see how long that take me to get under 75% Cheers again SPR.
SPR Nov 2016 9:04pm, 12 Nov 2016 23,019 posts	0 SPR No worries, obviously there's other stuff to consider like whether the new pace feels comfortable, and there's no need to get wedded to a pace, if you need an easier day run slower.
Daz Love Nov 2016 9:50pm, 12 Nov 2016 427 posts	0 Daz Love It's felt hard running at 10:45 pace, only because it was so unnatural! I have read lots more on that thread. Useful. Will get out at 8:45-9 pace next time.
glucotab Nov 2016 2:06pm, 13 Nov 2016 55 posts	0 glucotab SPR- useful page link there, thanks. And I`ll be needing some of those easy days. Daz L- I too am 8-45-ing as easy. Seemed fine for an hour today.
Daz Love Nov 2016 3:50pm, 13 Nov 2016 429 posts	0 Daz Love I'm certain 8:45 will feel easy as to be honest, when I run at 7:30 it never feels very taxing. Will get out for an hour tomorrow at that pace and see what the HR is! Will keep at that pace until I get to 50 miles a week and it drops below 75%
Huntsman Nov 2016 6:05pm, 13 Nov 2016 4,505 posts	0 Huntsman 71.9% MHR 8:40 pace. Much more enjoyable than previous slower runs.
BS Nov 2016 9:00pm, 13 Nov 2016 3,184 posts	0 BS Cheers Boab, certainly food for thought. Daz in terms of swimming HR would you have a different max HR and could you measure it with a HR strap or the manual way.
Daz Love Nov 2016 8:38am, 14 Nov 2016 430 posts	0 Daz Love I could certainly try and check it the manual way but don't have a swim HRM. (I only took it up this year due to injury!)
paul the builder Nov 2016 1:04pm, 14 Nov 2016 5,831 posts	0 paul the builder Daz - I pretty much agree (and who am I not to anyway!) with the Hadd post SPR linked to. The only bit I'm not happy with is that he writes using 5k PB pace (plus 3min), which could be ill-advised for someone if they are very far from PB form. He does list 6 categories where he almost expects to have problems with people starting out on this training. I remember seeing that and since I didn't fit in to any of those 6, then I didn't give myself an out, and just stuck at it. It did take a few months to get out of the 10m/m zone, but then I wasn't up to 50mpw (more like 35), and I've not got any natural ability at this sport to start me off (other than a tendency not to be overweight). I always did have a bit of a hard time relating to the parts of the method (or posts on threads about it) where he talked about paces like 8:30m/m being really slow. I've never found 8:30 really slow - just different levels of hard/easy according the fitness I have at that time. I'm sure there are people who genuinely find 8:30 slow, but unless they have at least a 75min HM to their name (or equivalent), I don't believe them. Hunts - surely you should be using 75% of maxHR as the ceiling, not 70% anyway. (some folk start with a ceiling HR of 70% Working HR, which is a different calculation taking resting HR into account - don't get them mixed up!)
Daz Love Nov 2016 1:53pm, 14 Nov 2016 433 posts	0 Daz Love Cheers as ever Ptb - So I'm not PB form (5:45) but probably not far from 6:00. So will aim to run between 8:45 and 9s for as long as it takes me to to get to below 75%. I'm interested to see what it comes out at. Will aim for 6 miles tonight at around 8:45 and see what the average HR is.